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Asian Antiques1139 of 3369Antique Oriental Plate.   two asian/oriental miniture oil paintings.
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Posted 12 months ago

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BigTex
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Pair of 6" Satsuma vases I have owned for several years. Bought from a friend's antique/junk store. This design has always confused me. I can never remember whether it is Satsuma or Imari. Thanks for correcting me. I am changing the listing info.

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  1. Stillwater Stillwater, 12 months ago
    These are Satsuma
  2. Vintage_Joe Vintage_Joe, 12 months ago
    Any stamps on the botton? Maybe Satsuma repro from 1930's.
  3. BigTex BigTex, 12 months ago
    Vintage Joe, have added a pic of the marks on the bottom. These marks mean nothing to me. I really appreciate your input. Hopefully, you can get a little info from them. Any ideas on whether these are 1930's repos? I had thought they were older than that, it never occurred to me they might be that late. The painting is very detailed and rich. Would a better photo help you with the 1930's repro opinion?
  4. Stillwater Stillwater, 12 months ago
    Yeah thats a Satsuma mark
  5. jwendell222, 12 months ago
    Hi Tex, the cross in circle, or mon is the family crest of the Shimazu clan, indicating Satsuma. The two kanji below it are for Gyokuzan. Your vases are Meiji era (1868 - 1912), likely early. There is a similar pair on Ebay, buy it now, offered at $400. The depictions on the vase seem to be of Kannon, the goddess of mercy
    (Quan Yin in Chinese) and several rakans or arhats, holy men. Regards, Jim
  6. BigTex BigTex, 12 months ago
    Thanks for the info, JW. I always had a gut feeling they dated to about 1880-1890 (just based upon the painting and design)
  7. Vintage_Joe Vintage_Joe, 12 months ago
    Hi
    Look this site: http://gotheborg.com/marks/satsuma.shtml
    Stamp 885 is very similar. This kind of stamp it is widely used in 1900-1930(several studio's).
    I have collected japanese and chinese ceramics for several years now.
    It is always hard to say sure from photo, but difficulty of asian ceramics is reproduction of old items. They copy stamps too.
    I don't want disdain any items here, anyway these vases are very good find to anyone today.
  8. jwendell222, 12 months ago
    Hi Tex and VintageJoe, using Joe's reference above, mark 885 is Ryozan. Then look at mark 341 under Gyokuzan, which is your mark, but without the mon. Also look at the rest of Gyokuzan. Joe is correct in that firm dating requires hands on and sometimes more than that, but from your photo, I'll stay with my guess. Regards, Jim
  9. BigTex BigTex, 12 months ago
    Thanks for the interest. I know marks are sort of questionable on many Asian items. It is interesting there might be such a large difference in the age depending on the opinion. I'd be happy to try to take a couple of more detailed pics if anyone is interested. This is what I like about collecting items, I learn something every day.
  10. Stillwater Stillwater, 12 months ago
    You've gotten quite a bit of info already, the ball's in your court now in terms of researching

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