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Beautiful 12" Chinese Iron Red Double Gourd Vase / Apocryphal Qing-Kangxi Impressed Seal Mark/ Circa 20th Century

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Posted 6 months ago

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mikelv85
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Here's the best thing I found today or at least my favorite thing. A wonderful 12" iron red (orange red) double gourd vase from Goodwill . I love the shape and color plus I don't have one of these in my collection. Didn't do too much research on it. I think the impressed mark is interesting but probably not authentic. I'll check around on Gotheborg's site for this piece along with the teapot. It's in perfect condition. I didn't notice any craquelure in the glaze so I don't think it's that old, but I could be wrong. -Mike-

I received a reply from Peter on the "Collecting Antique Chinese Porcelain " forum:

"The vase itself could be late Qing dynasty. Whether the bottom is glazed or not does not matter, in my view, but the mark is a problem in both cases. (the liveauction example in my post)
The Kangxi mark is apocryphal on both items. There were no Zhuanshu marks used in the Kangxi reign. See http://www.chinese-antique-porcelain.com/antique-pottery-marks.html
All Kangxi marks in Zhuanshu style are likely from the late Qing dynasty (or later), but I have actually never seen monochrome items from the late Qing dynasty with such Kangxi marks. Most of these remained unmarked. A hands-on inspection might be appropriate in this case."

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  1. SEAN68 SEAN68, 6 months ago
    beautiful!!!
  2. mikelv85 mikelv85, 6 months ago
    Thanks Sean :) man you are fast on the love's...lol
  3. SEAN68 SEAN68, 6 months ago
    Your very welcome Mike!!! lol!!!
  4. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 months ago
    This is really nice!
  5. mikelv85 mikelv85, 6 months ago
    Thank you vetraio50...I was a bit excited when I saw this in our thrift store. Haven't been able to ID the mark yet. They can be rather difficult. -Mike-
  6. jwendell222, 6 months ago
    Hi Mike, the mark, rotated 90 degrees clockwise, is a variant of Kangxi not shown in Gotheborg in this form. Regards, Jim
  7. mikelv85 mikelv85, 6 months ago
    Hi Jim, Thanks so much for the help with the mark. Wasn't sure about the orientation. I just checked out your posts and love everything including the car. -Mike-
  8. mikelv85 mikelv85, 5 months ago
    Found a pair of peacock blue double gourd vases on Liveauction that carry the same incised mark as this vase.The bottom is glazed on these. Mine is not, but the mark is identical. They're saying it's a 19th century Qing-Kangxi mark. This is getting interesting !

    http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/11042080_pr-chinese-qing-peacock-blue-double-gourd-vases
  9. shrine shrine, 5 months ago
    No idea about its authenticity. A real piece could fetch you thousands but the estimated price on liveauction yells fake.
  10. mikelv85 mikelv85, 5 months ago
    Thanks for the input shrine :)

    I received a reply from Peter on the "Collecting Antique Chinese Porcelain " forum:

    "The vase itself could be late Qing dynasty. Whether the bottom is glazed or not does not matter, in my view, but the mark is a problem in both cases. (the liveauction example in my post)
    The Kangxi mark is apocryphal on both items. There were no Zhuanshu marks used in the Kangxi reign. See http://www.chinese-antique-porcelain.com/antique-pottery-marks.html
    All Kangxi marks in Zhuanshu style are likely from the late Qing dynasty (or later), but I have actually never seen monochrome items from the late Qing dynasty with such Kangxi marks. Most of these remained unmarked. A hands-on inspection might be appropriate in this case."
  11. shrine shrine, 5 months ago
    Hi Mike, the Zhuanshu itself may not be a problem with stamped mark as Zhuanshu is the standard font for Chinese stamp. The question bothering me is why the mark was stamped in the first place.

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