Posted 10 years ago
sklo42
(886 items)
I like this vase for its curvy but uncluttered shape and generous top. The trim is black and the main colour is somewhere between yellow and orange. It's cased in clear and the base is smooth, but slightly dished.
I had no idea of the maker when I posted the vase originally. However first yesterdaysglass identified it and then welzebub compiled evidence. See the link below. Thanks to you both.
The orange bowl is Loetz and the jam pot is most likely Ruckl.
Height 18 cm. Top Diameter 7cm.
stunning!!
Thank you,SEAN........kind as ever.
Thank you aghcollect and thank you Moon.
Thank you kerry10456
Thank you valentino97
Thank you, vetraio50
Thank you VioletOrange
Thank you racer4four
Thank you, Michelleb007
Thank you, mikelv85
Thank you, austrohungaro
Thank you czechman.
Thank you AnneLanders
This piece is welz imo based on technique and shape.
Thank you Manikin and valentino for the love.
Thank you yesterdaysglass. Only now do I understand that your opinion is correct. An id that pleases me very much :-)
I agree with Kyle completely. This is a classic shape for Welz production. I did not see this post before.
I have taken the time to create a grouping of images which includes your example at the top and then 6 very distinct examples of Welz decors on this shape. The shape is found with and without a manipulated rim, as can be seen in the grouping. All examples share the commonalities of an applied rim and no pontil mark. The image can be accessed with the following link.
http://www.kralik-glass.com/images/shape16.jpg
Thanks Welzebub .....how kind of you to take the trouble to assemble such solid evidence that my unknown Tango vase has a 'pedigree'. I'm almost speechless......
My pleasure. I am always glad to help. The décors on those shapes are all décors which I believe to be exclusive to Welz production. Without those décors on those other examples, a piece such as this would be virtually impossible to tie down as to maker.
And that was my problem with Kyle's id. Another post on CW had identified a very, very similar shape as Welz. Logic told me only one would be Welz but I had no way of knowing which.
In many cases, and not just with Welz, you will find that a glass house made a "family" of quite similar shapes. Where small differences in shapes can point to different houses as being the sources, those same shapes, combined with the use of distinct décors can also point to two similar shapes simply being variations on a theme by one house.
If looking to determine a maker (when possible) is important to evaluate shape, décor, and in some cases, techniques used to produce the item. It is only by using all three parameters that your vase was able to be identified. As a stand alone piece, like I said, it would be next to impossible to determine a maker.
To me, this is the great fascination I have with researching Bohemian / Czech glass. It is like putting together a jigsaw puzzle....... But in the case of this glass, you have all the pieces, but no box lid to show you what the end result picture will look like..... so you actually figure out what the picture looks like as you identify the pieces....... and lots of the pieces you have to look at have nothing to do with the picture you are trying to put together...... but only time lets you figure that out..... :-)
But very satisfying when you do.....figure it out.
Thanks for loving, welzebub and katherinescollections
ooooo i really like these gorgeous colours so bright and vibrant :) very nice
Great insight into to your (welzebub) research and analysis that has led to the ability to put an AMAZING face on Welz Glass!
scott
Thank you glassmadshaz for the love and for your your enthusiasm!
I'd happily second that, scott.
Thank you austrohungaro for the love.
Thanks Scott & Sklo.... I really do it because I enjoy the mental challenge of it all.
To me it has proven to be extremely rewarding to try to figure it out, and to later be presented with information from the direct descendants of Franz Alois Welz after so much work, that proves my methods were quite correct.
And more than anything, I thoroughly enjoy sharing the information I have figured out with other passionate collectors that are truly open minded, and interested in increasing their knowledge of the glass from this period and region.