Posted 15 months ago
AR8Jason
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Advertising Watch Fobs
An elongated Hughes Tri-Cone Drill Bit figural [back] "Hughes Patent Simplex Reaming Cone Bit Manufactured by Hughes Tool Co Houston, Texas" "Sterling" {{{The Only Genuine Sterling Advertising Watch Fob of which I have seen}}}
OWECo Drill Bit figural [back] plain
Hughes Tri-Cone Drill bit chain fob figural with a Hughes Tool logo {notched right gear} [back] Hughes Tool Logo and "Go all the way with Hughes" "Hughes Tool Company" "Made in USA"
Appleman Gumbo Bit figural drill bit [back] Beaumont Texas
Hughes Tri-Cone Drill bit strap fob figural with a Hughes Tool logo {rounded bail} [back] "Hughes Tri-Cone Rock Bit" "Hughes Tool Company Houston, Texas" and a makers mark
Hughes Tri-Cone Drill bit strap fob figural with a Hughes Tool logo {notched right gear squared bail} [back] "Hughes Tri-Cone Rock Bit" "Hughes Tool Company Houston, Texas" maker "M.A. Co. Roch. N.J." (Metal Arts Co.)
Hughes Tri-Cone Drill bit strap fob figural with a Hughes Tool logo {notched right gear rounded bail} Hughes Tool logo mid strap [back] "Hughes Tri-Cone Rock Bit" "Hughes Tool Company Houston, Texas" makers maker
If you read the story, you will hear about how rare REAL watch fobs are in Sterling Silver and how fakes are often in Sterling Silver. The fob to the upper left is the only genuine Sterling Silver "Advertising" watch fob I have seen in person. It is VERY RARE.
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Hughes Tri-cone Drill Bits are one of my favorite. The invention of and selling of that bit is what started the Hughes fortune, by Howard Hughes father. I have three dimensional tri-cone fobs as well that turn. A Tri-Cone Drill Bit fob is actually one you might find in 14K Gold as a jewelers piece, not really advertising.
25 or so years ago, my wife and I were at her parents for Christmas. There were only two rooms heated in the turn of the 1900s house and there were 2 little babies and 10 adults in a small room, and nothing was happening. I worked for a metal detecting company and had two metal detectors with me. It was cold and a slight mist outside. But any thing was better than dieing of boredom as a sardine so I got up and started putting on my coat. That aroused the rest of the bored crowed and they wanted to know what I was going to do. I told them I was going to metal detect in the yard. They told me there was no sense in that as only poor people had lived in that house. I told them we would see what was there. Within a couple of hours I had what I considered 10 good finds including a 14K gold thimble from around 1898 (found it in an 1898 Sears catalog).
One of the other items was kind of a round medallion with a slot on one edge, and it was bent into a right angle. The medallion had a hand holding a large plow blade, and read "J.I. Case Plow Works Racine Wis."
The group gathered at the kitchen table to see what I had found and then as I was showing them the jewelry, they remembered the first owner of the house was a doctor. A couple of distant cousins dropped in as I was showing the items. I had never met these cousins, but they were known to be a bit eccentric. One was a single man and the other was his brother and his wife. The single man was recently returned from Alaska from mining gold, where a flood wiped out his operation. He took the medallion and asked if I would take $20.00 for it and I told him I didn't think so. He said he didn't know what it was but was sure it was supposed to be flat. He wanted to know if I wanted him to try to straighten it and told him to go head. With a couple of short pieces of 2"x4" wood and a hammer he did a fantastic job.
Later on I went to a flea market and set up to try to sell metal detectors as I bought them from the company at about half price, and I could sell them at a lot less than dealers with store overheads. It seemed everyone was thrilled with my finds, but not to interested in buying a metal detector. I heard a lot of lies. One man wanted to know how much the real little thimble was (about the size of a monopoly thimble) "because it would just fit his daughter." It would only fit if she was in diapers, and I doubt a child that size could sew, or would be trusted with a needle. He looked old enough to be my father. Another man wanted to know if I would "sell the brass thimble." I asked if he meant the 14K gold one and he said never mind. I kept telling them that only the metal detectors were for sell.
I went to the restrooms (bargain shopping on the way) and had been gone about an hour when I returned. My wife said a man had wanted to know if I would sell the J.I. Case medal. My wife told him she didn't think so but I would be back later and he could come back and talk to me about it. He gave her directions to his booth and told her to send me by to see him if I wanted to sell it or not. When I got back she told me of this older man and how nice he had been and said he seem real interested in buying the J.I. Case plow advertising thing.
I went to look him up and I found him. We talked about the medallion and he told me that it was an advertising "watch fob" and he collected advertising "watch fobs." He said they hung from a leather strap with the other end through the bail of a pocket watch to aid in getting it out of a watch pocket on your pants. He told me that he could tell that I didn't want to sell it, but if I ever did, not to sell it for under $100.00 as it was a very good one.
That was my first watch fob. I met this man every month at the flea market and talked fobs as my collection grew. He suggested I set a number for a maximum number to have, and when I reached that number to begin high grading to stay around that number. Selling off duplicates and ones of lesser interest. I reached my goal of 100 many years ago, but have been able to stay below the 200 mark. More stories will be posted as I have time on other listings.
Here are a few of the fobs I have acquired over the years. In this lot are a few military related. That is one area I like in particular. I show the back of the fobs as well as the front, because the back is important in determining if a fob is real, or a fake.
I have dropped into eBay to look at fobs there and it makes me sick to see people paying 50.00 for a "sterling fob I bought from the estate of a fob collector" and they are poor molded fakes. FIRST ... very few advertising watch fobs were made in Sterling Silver. Presentation fobs were some times made in Sterling. I have two presentation fobs from United States Steel, (25 years of service, and 30 years of service) that were sterling, and a military fob that was presented by a grateful city for WWI service.
The only other sterling fob I have is for Hughes Tool Company, and is VERY RARE. It likely was made for high company officials, or major buyers. When you consider the cost of a Hughes Tri-cone Drill Bit, and the cost of oilfield supplies for a major company, Hughes could afford to make some sterling fobs. Note I have only seen one of this design, mine, and never seen one of the other, sought after but more common, designs in sterling silver.
Any way ... to the postings!



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Thank you OFFICIALFUEL, TTOM and POTRERO.
AR8Jason,
I have a long connection with oil field industry. My father spent most of his career in the oil field in Southern Illinois. First as a roughneck, then a driller, and later on as a welding contractor working in the oil field. I started out working with him in the oil field welding buisness in the 1950's. I later enlisted in the U S Navy. As long as I can remember he always wore a Hughes Tri-Cone Bit watch fob and it was a three dimensional one. He passed away several years ago and I still have his pocket watch but the fob is missing. I would like to locate another fob just like that one.
After I was discharged fron the Navy in 1959 I moved to Arizona and worked in the copper mining industry for 40 years before retiring. During that time I usually wore a pocket watch and over the years I have had several different advertisement fobs that I either sold, gave away, or lost. I still have one fob I like so much I have always taken care of it and I have only seen one other one like it. It is from the W. S. Tyler Company in Cleveland, Ohio, a company that made rock screening machinery. It is a piece of "screen cloth" that hangs from the leather strap. Have you ever seen one and do you know how common these were? Any comments or information would be a great help.
Sincerely, BDavis
B.DAVIS
I have seen one or two like you described for W.S. Tyler in person, it has been a while. Here is one I found on the net for sale.
http://buy.id.ebay.com/buying/id/display/320649631439_TYLER-CRUSHER-SCREEN--WATCH-FOB
I would guess that many of these don't make it to market for a couple of reasons. One is people don't recognize what it is. Second is that the people that get these have an attachment to them.
The Hughes Tri-Cone 3-D Drill Bit fob you discussed ... I have a couple of examples and the bits crushing gears turn. They are some of my most prized.
AR8Jason
Are either of your Hughes Tri-Cone 3-D Drill Bit fobs for sale?
Thanks, B.Davis
My grandfather ran rigs at Ged, Louisiana (where my mother was born) and received from Howard Hughes a Hughes Patent Simplex Reaming Cone Bit watch fob which you have pictured---it is stamped "Sterling" and was in Mom's cedar chest for years---I now wear it on a silver wire as a necklace. I was born in Beaumont, TX and my father also worked in the "oil patch"----nice to know it has some value other than sentimental!
B. Hansen
hello, i was out metal detecting today, in Oil City, PA around an old late 1800's-1900's area and dug up a fob like one in your photos. at first i thought it was a can opener, but then it is marked sterling. on the back reads: hughes simplex rock bit, hughes tool co. houston, texas. nearby was an abandoned oil drill. Your photos are probably the only relative source of info i can find of this piece. Now you state about fakes, but this piece is unique and dug right from the old original ground. it is very nice looking and clean, as with silver preserves in the ground well. if you would like to correspond more, you could contact me and i could submit or send photos. Chris from PA
@Chris ... The Hughes Simplex Drill bit is sterling and is not a fake. It is a rare exception to the rule that most sterling ADVERTISING watch fobs are fake. As PA had major oil discoveries it is logical that many Hughes Tool Company drill bits were sold in Pennsylvania and some one that bought a lot of them could have been presented a sterling fob, or a person high up in Hughes Tool Company visited there. I would like to see the fob. You can post it to CollectorsWeekly or send it to me attached in a FaceBook Message. On my profile, you will find the link to my FaceBook page.
Posted on this website with pics under title: Hughes Simplex Rock Bit Fob Sterling Silver.
Thanks.
The easiest way to get to Chris' fob is to click on his name. Then you will see it posted to his profile.
Just got one from my father. His fob he got was the one in bottom Right of the picture above. He was in Houston in the early fifties and brought it back with him. He worked for Connential Emsco at the time. I am sure it is real thing.
Hello Jim. I am glad you have the personal history with yours. All the fobs in these photos are genuine. As yet I have not seen a fake Hughes Tool Co. Fob. Did you see my EMSCO fob I have posted here?
AR8Jason,
My Dad just gave me a Appleman Gumbo Bit figural bit watch Fob. He told me it was purchase for him as a gift by my grandfather when he was working in the oil fields in Beaumont. It still has the original leather strap. What can you tell me about it? I plan to pass it down to my son some day and would like to be able to tell him more about it.
I believe that the Appleman Gumbo Bit is a "fish tail" style bit for the specific purpose of drilling through a specific type of shale (rock) in Texas called Gumbo Shale. It turns from hard rock to "gumbo" when it becomes wet, causing certain drilling issues.
The Appleman Bits were used in the 1920s prior to the Hughes Tri-Cone Drill Bits (a rotary bit invented by Howard Hughes Sr.) (circa 1930s).
I have a Appleman Gumbo Bit, Beaumont, Texas. Attached on a leather buckled strap is a Gold pocket Watch. Brand of Watch is Howard. Have been reading your comments about the attached piece and is very interesting. Can anyone tell me more or how much something like this is worth? BJD
I have a coin that reads Fort Worth Transit Co. 1942. Does anyone know how much this coin is worth? I realize this is a prepaid token to board the bus in Ft. Worth Texas. BJD
Sorry I have not gotten notice of your post BJD. Collectors Weekly seems to unconnected me from my early posts from time to time.
Post a photo of the watch to Collectors Weekly to get more information. It is free and you have done the "hard" part by signing up.
Include the serial number from the back of the mechanical works. Include the information on the inside of the back of the case as well.
"Transit Tokens" is a very specialized area of collecting. You might look under that title on Google for sites that deal with that specific kind of token. Due to the sheer number of them produced, I doubt they are worth a lot.