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    Posted 10 years ago

    B.wertz86
    (2 items)

    Tongue of a Civil war era police belt plate

    Dug on a Pennsylvania farm

    I believe it's an 1860s New York belt plate

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    Comments

    1. Roycroftbooksfromme1, 10 years ago
      cool find.............
    2. fhrjr2 fhrjr2, 10 years ago
      I would say amazing condition for the age of it. You must dig very gently.
    3. scottvez scottvez, 10 years ago
      How did you attribute a police belt to NY?

      scott
    4. fhrjr2 fhrjr2, 10 years ago
      The first police badges were issued in London A number of years later. I wonder how this came to be earlier, but I will learn from the reply. Interesting post but I won't follow it. Let's be real.
    5. scottvez scottvez, 10 years ago
      Two piece "Police" buckles date from the civil War era-- not sure of the relevence of a London police badge to the discussion!

      scott
    6. fhrjr2 fhrjr2, 10 years ago
      The word POLICE Scott.
    7. fhrjr2 fhrjr2, 10 years ago
      I have found much dispute about it. I could actually care less but found it interesting at some point in life, Like no man shall keep or bear title. This may have been defiance at it's best. I still question it being a dig.
    8. scottvez scottvez, 10 years ago
      I still don't understand how the first police BADGE has any relevence to an early police BUCKLE.

      This one being dug or from that era is another discussion.

      scott
    9. fhrjr2 fhrjr2, 10 years ago
      I will back off Scott. Was this a watchman? Constable? Police Officer? 1860's United States? I think not but will be glad to learn.
    10. B.wertz86, 10 years ago
      Ok let's c I'll try to answer all questions and will answer any others. To start with. It is being questioned if this is an actual dig and I must dig very gently. Well yes it's dug y would I even lie about it being dug or not. Secondly u would have go buck wild digging to do much damage I mean it's made of heavy brass I dug it w my lesche and it was only a few inches deep. I found many items from this site datingfrom that period.
    11. B.wertz86, 10 years ago
      I'm no expert by any means but I am competent enough to use the internet and do alittle research. My research shows me I have a civil war ERA New York police belt plate. Of coarse it's missing the wreath. I looked for it to no avail (sad face) woulda been awesome to pull it out as well. New York United States hah yeah. I know this one is very rare. Now I posted on here hoping maybe an expert would know something I don't and the real value because even with the research I've done it still didn't provide very much info. I also feel like it's in pretty nice shape but also wish it was in better shape. If u can't tell it does have a benchmark 24 to the left of P in Police
    12. scottvez scottvez, 10 years ago
      These two piece belts were made in the US during the Civil War era.

      I deal in Civil War items on a regular basis.

      The patina on this example looks a little odd-- have you oiled it or put something on it?

      The jury is still out (for ME) on this being an authentic example. I am NOT doubting your story-- this is just based on WHAT I CAN SEE.

      Again, there is NO DOUBT that two piece POLICE buckles were made during the US Civil War.

      scott
    13. B.wertz86, 10 years ago
      That pic is from when I first found the plate. That is a bathroom sink and only water on it.. I'll post another post w two new pics I just took... And I do believe it to b authentic as everything I found in the same area is time period.. Flying eagle pennies Indian head pennies old buckles pad locks up to early 1900s w v niks n mercs to a Hickok silver buckle a very rare sears chief bicycle head badge .. Off top of my head I think that's all the best find could be forgetting a few.. So I highly doubt in the middle of all that there's a fake buckle from time period of everything else wouldn't make sense.
    14. scottvez scottvez, 10 years ago
      You'd be surprised.

      Many Civil War battlefields/ camps were used as SAW training camps. Many CW campsites were used for varying purposes after the war.

      I have many friends that are diggers and they habitually find 20th century trash and even reproduction items in original CW era sites.

      scott

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