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    Posted 9 years ago

    bvdbogart
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    unsure what this coin is..and ive searched long and hard..it weighs 8.9 grams, it appears to be silver, and very well preserved

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    1. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 years ago
      A numismatic rarity.

      I hope that it is real!

      It was the first French coin minted with a portrait of a Ling of France.

      Louis d'Orléans was born in 1462 - the son of the Duke Charles d'Orléans and Marie de Clèves. In 1465 the succeeded his father under the regency of his mother. In 1476 he married Jeanne the daughter of the French King Louis XI. He had coins minted in Savoy at Asti under the title of "Ludovicus Dux Aurelianesis" - the Duke of Orléans until 1498 when he succeeded to the throne as Louis XII.

      "Louis d'Orléans naquit en 1462 de l'union du duc Charles d'Orléans et de Marie de Clèves. En 1465, il succéda à son père sous la régence de sa mère. En 1476, il épousa Jeanne, fille du roi de France Louis XI. Il frappa monnaie à Asti avec le titre de "duc d'Orléans" jusqu'en 1498, année de son accession au trône de France sous le nom de Louis XII."

      http://vso.numishop.eu/fiche-v60_0255-vso_mo-1-ITALIE_ASTI_LOUIS_D_ORLEANS_Teston_.html

      Ludovicus Dux Aurelianesis.
      Ludovico Duke of Orléans 1465 - 1498
      Ludovico II duca di orleans 1465 - 1498

      ITALY - ASTI - LOUIS OF ORLÉANS Teston Asti R3 silver (28mm, 9,35g, 9h)

      Obverse : (lis) LVDOVICVS' DVX' AVRELIANESIS Buste à gauche de Louis d'Orléans portant un bonnet

      Reverse : 'Z - MEDIOLANI' AST' AC' DN'-S' Écu couronné, écartelé aux 1 et 4 d'Orléans, aux 2 et 3 de Milan, accosté de deux lis

      https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?p=lot&sid=590&lot=255




      mezzo bianco
      LUDOVICUS DUX stemma
      AURELIANENSIS MEDIOL croce

      raruccia il MIR piemonte la indica R"
    2. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 years ago
      I suppose something to add is the coat of arms : It is the combination of King of France and the serpent of Milan. "Louis conquered the Duchy of Milan in 1500 and pushed forward to the Kingdom of Naples, which fell to him in 1501. Proclaimed King of Naples, Louis faced a new coalition gathered by Ferdinand II of Aragon and was forced to cede Naples to Spain in 1504." ...."Louis, who remained Duke of Milan after the second Italian War, was interested in further expansion in the Italian Peninsula and launched a third Italian War (1508–1516), which was marked by the military prowess of the Chevalier de Bayard.

      Louis XII died in 1515 without a male heir. He was succeeded by his cousin Francis from the Angoulême cadet branch of the House of Valois."

      "Louis's failure to hold on to Naples prompted a commentary by Niccolò Machiavelli in his famous opus The Prince " Chapter III.
      (Wikipedia)
    3. bvdbogart, 9 years ago
      it looks real, but I don't really know..thank you for the information and the history
    4. bvdbogart, 9 years ago
      any idea what the value of it would be ?
    5. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 years ago
      Check out the numisbids site above ..... the price is there in Euros. I am not saying yours is real or of the same quality but it is worth further research, no?
    6. bvdbogart, 9 years ago
      how do I tell for myself if its real or a replica ?
    7. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 years ago
      Well I'd be going to an expert.
      One of the numismatic sites or Auction house specialising in international coins.

      This is a French item with interest for Italian collectors too.
      It was described in Italian as "raruccia" - really rare.


      Depends where you are.
    8. bvdbogart, 9 years ago
      northeast US
    9. noob, 9 years ago
      Spink in NYC
      usa@spink.com Tel: +1-212-262-8400 Fax: +1-212-262-8484
    10. bvdbogart, 9 years ago
      thank you
    11. blunderbuss2 blunderbuss2, 9 years ago
      Vetra, every time you open you mouth, all I can think, is "Damned, I'm impressed!".

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