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    Posted 9 years ago

    woggle
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    These were probably bought by my grandmother in Adelaide, Australia about 80 years ago. They are about 40 centimetres high and seem to be 'gilded' around the top and around the raised roof and flower outlines. I'd like to know more of the story around them as my grandparents did not have a lot of decorative arts at all (they were not wealthy people). Makes me wonder why they had these. I assume they were made for the English market. Thanks for any help

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    1. racer4four racer4four, 9 years ago
      Welcome Woggle.
      As the mark on the back is very distinct a good place to start is checking on Guttenberg. Com.
      Someone should be along to help out but it's always good to check what you can.
    2. woggle, 9 years ago
      thankyou both for having a look and the advice to look on Gotheborg. from that it does seem to be Japanese and I'll go through the marks a few times as there are so many it will be easy to miss. Let you know if I get more info, thanks, Greg
    3. racer4four racer4four, 9 years ago
      Jim of course I meant Gotheberg! doh! Thanks for saving the day.
    4. woggle, 9 years ago
      thanks for that recommendation Jim - I will follow up and I'll report back if I get more info. And thanks for going through those pics of potters marks - I've been through a few times as well and not found anything either
      Greg
    5. woggle, 9 years ago
      Someone on Asian Arts Forum suggested it was Kutani ware - and the mark is consistent with that - eg compare to the image at the top of http://www.kovels.com/price-guide/pottery-porcelain-price-guide/kutani.html

    6. woggle, 9 years ago
      HI Jim - no probs on the reply - it was posted on Thursday by "Roger" http://i.imgur.com/QIHfJay.jpg
      Obviously I have no idea about the quality of the claim it is Kutani, but I can see the mark as a very crude attempt at the 'house' character and given how crude the pottery is I can see how one can make it 'fit' as a very slapdash signature. But if you asked me does it look the same as 99% of the images of Kutai ware that I see on the net I'd say- not really. Perhaps it is a crude forgery from 80 years ago, if people made such things then.
    7. woggle, 9 years ago
      here's the direct link http://www.asianart.com/phpforum/index.php?method=detailAll&Id=86029
    8. woggle, 9 years ago
      Here is another response from Asian Art Forum
      "This is not a kutani mark, but means "right". Seems that the vase was the right one of a pair. It seems to me rather to be "Kyoto Satsuma" from the first half of the 20th c.
      Mat"

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