Posted 8 years ago
Alan2310
(915 items)
Hi
Everyone.
I receive today this beautiful early Rindskopf secessionist oil spot with a very interesting and stylist silver overlay, red glass on the inside, oil spot silver iridescent on the outside, very gorgeous gourde form(oval), nice addition to my small Silver overlay vase collection.
This vase stand 5.50 inch tall, 4 inch by 2.75 inch wide, 2.50 inch by 2.25 inch.
Thanks for Viewing.
Alan
MANY THANKS TO LoetzDance, for the help to find the real ID
Alan, What a real beauty this one is!! Really beautiful!!
What a stunner!!
What a stunner!!
Fantastic,Alan!Congrats!
Absolutely gorgeous shape!
A wonder Alan!
@Scott, yes really special this one, I was lucky to find it.
@SEAN, Stunner it is, yes, Stunner.
@Ivonne, Fantastic for sure, in your hands, pretty unique, less then 24hours, I adore this Vase.
@Peggy, the shape is one of a kind, I look online, don't see anything like it.
@karen, 7 wonder of the world, this could be the 8, LOL
TO ALL OF YOU, Many thanks to be so supporters of my post, I appreciated at the the bottom of my heart, always a pleasures you commented, also for the love.
Alan
Many thanks, Moonstonelover21
Radegunder
getthatmonkeyoutofme
valentino97
lisa
rucklczglass
aura
DecoVoo
Nicefice
Vintagefran
Trey
mike
jensen
Caperkid
Kevin
Glassie
swfinluv1
VioletOrange
dlfd911, for the love, really appreciated you stop by.
Alan
Why delete my comment?
After your comment,interested piece and overlay, but you love it(i know you have the right to not love), but never it the love click for anyone, not only for my glass, on everything or everyone you comment.
On everything you comment,"striking piece of glass, another great find, beautiful piece of glass, wow i love it, beautiful Welz, kralik at the top, Another great add to your collection, but no love for anybody, member following you, but again you not follow anyone, maybe a reason for that?
Now let me ask you, this early LOETZ vase as everything to be, but you mention"this not a LOETZ either" on what you base your comment ??
No, I do not click "love" or "follow" people any longer. I prefer to make a brief comment instead. I also see many of the things posted by all those who follow me, as well as items from many others. I don't think any of them see it as offensive, at least I sure hope not. If you don't want me to comment on your posts because of that...then my apologies, I won't any longer.
I like to see and learn new things about things of interest to me and admire others collections. That is why I mentioned it "might" not be loetz.
I am not 100% certain and that is why I mentioned it. So if it is, I may learn something new. My uncertainty is mainly because of the spots and the ground color. I didn't think Loetz, but then I saw no one had commented. I'm sure multiple others, that would know better than me, had previously seen this. That is why I also said "hopefully someone else can respond".
Anyhow, as mentioned before, it really is an awesome piece with that shape and overlay.
Fair end off, many thanks for clarify, i appreciated.
Alan
I had never saw anything like this, what a rare combination of techniques and colors.
I have studied this glass and have saved several photos showing the same decor & crandberry ground color and believe this piece could have been made by Rindskopf. If you would like to private message me I can send you some of these photos.
@LoetzDance, I just did, ty
Alan
@ kivatinitz, Many thanks for the kind comment and the love, really appreciated you stop by.
Alan
Many thanks to LoetzDance, for the knowledge to help me finding the real ID, for this difficult piece of glass, also TonyC and yesterdayglass for there's comments in the matter, really appreciated all the help.
Alan
Many thanks to, ho2cultcha
Michelleb007
bracken3
smiata
Radegunder
rucklczglass
kivatinitz
rniederman, for all the love, appreciated you take some of your time to stop by.
Alan
Hi Alan, I have never seen glass in this shape or decor attributed to Rindskopf before; would you mind explaining some of the thoughts behind this attribution? Thanks!
I did see those comments, thank you. That wasn't my question.
...it would be very helpful and educational for others to hear about or see examples of the vases that led to this attribution.
@micheleb007 & welzebub, I will ask LoetzDance, if I can use the pictures provided as an indicator on this post for supporting this id.
I am at work right now, so later today I should be able to comeback to you on this matter.
Alan
Thanks so much, Alan! :)
You are more than welcome michelleb007, you know I totally agree with you, it's good time for learning on this matter, who knows, always a place for new discovery, on any field, I know that.
Alan
Alan, you are certainly welcome to use both the photo of the "Rindskopf" vase that I sent to you as well as the collage of photos that show examples of various makers of "pink/cranberry papillon". Please include my detailed explanation of the photos that are shown in the collage. I would also like to add that regardless of the difficulty of being able to assign one specific maker to this vase, my response to this post was not to try and document this piece as being Rindskopf, which I don't believe is possible to prove or disprove, but rather to say that it isn't an example of Loetz. While it could be Rindskopf based on one of the photos that I sent to Alan, you will also see from my my collage of photos that I did not rule out the possibility of it being made by Kralik, PK, etc.
Thanks LoetzDance, that is very helpful; I appreciate your comment. I have seen several Rindskopf vases lately that are in a papillon finish on a sort of red-coral color that may be the ones you are referring to. They had a less complete covering of the spotting than this vase does, but I agree that the glass colors are similar and well worth studying. The shape of this vase is so unusual - whoever made it, I do love it!
@Michelleb007 @welzebub, here are some pic provided to me by LoetzDance, what make me realize this vase could be Rindskopf, is the decor of the picture 3 "Pink papillon Rindskopf" very similar to the one posted, when additional example was submitted to me by LoetzDance(collage 4)last 2 bottom right, those 2 example reinforce the attribution to Rindskopf IMO
Now for the shape, we not have discover yet all the shape already existed , this one could be new shape.
Lot of room to learn in my case, this vase is really a good one for me for this reason, i am not regret one moment this acquisition.
I love it even more today.
Alan
LoetzDance
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I combed though my photo library and selected other examples of "pink papillion" to show you. Below is a collage(#4) of these photos so you can compare the similarities and differences of various Bohemian makers who produced "pink papillon". The two examples on the bottom left are Loetz. These are also documented Loetz shapes. The example on the upper row, far left is most likely "Kralik" based on the shape. The one in the center of the top row was produced by Elizabeth Hutte (aka Palme Koenig). All of the pink papillon examples that I have seen done by PK also have a few green threads added to the decoration. It's hard to tell from this photo, but this example does have the "green threads". The last two examples on the bottom right are Rindskopf.
Thanks so much, Alan. This has been very helpful. :)
Again, you are more than welcome, because without you and few others i will not learn anything, about those 2 first experience, remember, the first below i was thinking I've found a LOETZ, and the second link i was thinking PK, and this is only 9 month ago, I do lot of progress ever since
http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/153057-iridescent-swirls-vaseend-of-xx-centur
http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/152957-bohemiankralik-biscotti-jarearly-x
Alan
Many thanks to, MyFavoriteTreasures
artislove
bohemianglassandmore
welzebub
rucklczglass
Trey, for the love, much appreciated that you take some of your time to stop by.
Regards
Alan
Many thanks,Radegunder
AnneLanders, for the love, much appreciated that you take some of your time to stop by.
Regards
Alan
rniederman, many thanks for the love, much appreciated that you take some of your time to stop by.
Regards
Alan