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    Posted 8 years ago

    Mdrossi
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    I dont hv a lot of info on it as i purchased from an estate sale. It appears to be a unique handle perhaps made for a high-ranking military officer or religious figure. So far its a mystery to me. Sam Peace knives are said to be circa 1825-1925.

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    1. Efesgirl Efesgirl, 8 years ago
      This is beautiful!
    2. whyatt whyatt, 8 years ago
      what a fantastic knife. absolutely beautiful...
    3. scottvez scottvez, 8 years ago
      This is not an antique knife.

      The handle is probably the most obvious give away that it is modern. Overall it just doesn't show the quality of an antique.

      I am not familiar with the company, but further research on the maker should show it was made in the last 30 years or so.

      scott
    4. Efesgirl Efesgirl, 8 years ago
      http://www.knifeforums.com/forums/printpost.php?tid/922556/

      "05-22-12 06:43.06 - Post#2471961

      As early as the 14th century Sheffield was noted for the production of knives and just like Solingen Germany attracted lots of manufacturers of Steel Products. Sheffield from 1825 on was and is known as Steel City. They made everything steel from hay scythes, plow blades, files, pocketknives, Bowie knife replicas, and Dinner Cutlery sets.
      Samuel Peace Sheffield England was a Steel tool maker one of several thousand, Samuel Peace Cutlery manufactured many makes of knives and changed names and types of blades, knives they made many times over the many years of their existence.
      The Peace company started with Joseph Peace file smith Scotland Street, Gales & Martin 1787, and then Peace And Marshall Saw manufacturers Scotland Street, Holden's 1811, and then Samuel Peace File & Saw manufacturer 77 Scotland Street, Baine's 1822, and then the familiar Samuel Peace Cutlers 77 Scotland Street, Baine’s 1825, and they changed Products constantly, Samuel Peace Scythe & Hay, straw &c. knife manufacturer Eagle Works, Russell Street Pigot’s 1841. Samuel Peace Steel & File Manufacturers' & Iron Merchants & Gas Retort Tools Well Meadow Steel Works, White's 1911, Samuel Peace (& Sons Ltd.) steel, files, steel castings, gas retort, tools, iron &c. barr Well Meadow Steel Works, White's 1919. (The name after the street denotes landowner.)
      I could find no later entries in the Sheffield Directory, which does not mean they didn’t exist. I found several references to the fact that Samuel Peace Cutlery changed to making Dinner Flatware, Cutlery Sets and Dinnerware as they got lost in the sea of Cutlery manufacturers in Sheffield England.
      Currently there are two Samuel Peace Companies listed in Sheffield England, one is Engineers and the other is Hardware.
      As far as your knife goes the Bowie knife style was manufactured 1825 to 1925.
      Which year was your Father’s made in, good question?
      As of 2000, Samuel Peace Cutlery Brand name has been purchased by Schrade."
    5. Efesgirl Efesgirl, 8 years ago
      The above info is in reference to a different knife, however. I posted it strictly for the information about the company.
    6. scottvez scottvez, 8 years ago
      link with photos:

      http://www.knifeforums.com/forums/showtopic.php?tid/922556/post/new/

      It pays to read the entire link-- 4th posting shows the same knife with a different handle (stag).

      5th posting addresses the age of that knife (same as poster, but with a stag handle):

      "hi, the knife in the photo was made in Sheffield in the late 1970s early 80s by Samuel peace she field manufacturers of fine cutlery including stag, buffalo and mother of pearl handled cutlery.it was a side line which they started around that time and exported mainly to the USA.some of the blades had acid etching on them with American emblems and others with stags on them.they sold at the time for around £50.(manufacturers price) probably £100 to £150 retail.hope this was of some help, thanks"

      This particular knife is a product of that MODERN Samuel Peace Co.

      scott
    7. Mdrossi, 8 years ago
      I can accept that if true that Samuel Peace knives were still being made with the Sam Peace Sheffield England mark in modern times. I just couldnt find any info that proved it, only info that 1825 to 1925 was period for SP production. I appreciate the info youve all shared so far. Would be great if someone had a photo or link to another one of these already dated and appraised. My searching has brought nothing in terms of this, even if its an 80s piece. Should be something out there on it..
    8. Mdrossi, 8 years ago
      On the blade theres a symbol of an eagle clutching 3 arrows. Was trying to find info on that. I saw some similar ones but not this exact one. That was curious.. and who did the artwork?. Is handle ceramic? If its newer its not ivory then, is it plastic? I can tell you the handle is heavier than the 1/4 thick blade.
    9. scottvez scottvez, 8 years ago
      Link has YOUR knife with a different handle.

      Link further has original price information from the 70s- 80s.

      scott
    10. Mdrossi, 8 years ago
      The handle is ivory. Has the characteristics of ivory. Imo it is older than late 70s.. it does have some antique qualities, aging too it. Not as much as some knives obviously. I suspect it no younger than 1960. Definitely vintage..Will have some antiques dealers weigh in soon on it.

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