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Posted 5 years ago

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vetraio50
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Bought here in Sydney, Australia.

Loetz Zephir Chiné. Coral and shell cornucopia as if found on the sea floor.

I've been told by Alfredo Villanueva that it is from the late nineteenth century.

For me it represents Naturalism and the influence of Nature on the applied arts.

Thanks to Dr. K. M. Hasselbach for the PN number: PN=I/7008 1897 !!!

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  1. Alfredo Alfredo, 5 years ago
    Actually, it is the height of the Art Nouveau concept of organic form, like Loetz or Kralik flower forms of the 1890's.
  2. ozmarty ozmarty, 5 years ago
    WOW!! SOOOO BEAUTIFUL.
  3. hapoli, 5 years ago
    LOVE,LOVE,LOVE IT
  4. LoetzDance LoetzDance, 5 years ago
    Beautiful! Just Beautiful! THanks for sharing.
  5. Glasseyed Glasseyed, 5 years ago
    Wowza,......Now that's eye candy
  6. vetraio50 vetraio50, 5 years ago
    Thanks muchly to you all!
  7. vetraio50 vetraio50, 4 years ago
    Many thanks BELLIN68, Obscurities, FineLines, Hedgewalker, scottvez, Glasseyed, marcobabe13, Mac63, sam560, mark, Alfredo, LoetzDance, hapoli, bohemianglassandmore, vintagemad, famatta127, ozmarty & LoetzBuddies too!
  8. vetraio50 vetraio50, 4 years ago
    Many thanks bratjdd, czechman & miKKoChristmas11 too!
  9. Budek Budek, 4 years ago
    Membranous-like, with an almost macabre beauty,.......I love it!
  10. vetraio50 vetraio50, 4 years ago
    Many thanks Budek!
    I've seen this quote: "Naturalism is the generic term for Art Nouveau, Organic Architecture and Expressionism". Perhaps you've picked up on the expressionist distortion of the concept of 'cornucopia' and placing it in those arms of coral; I agree it's beauty is macabre. The glass artists at Loetz and Kralik (as Alfredo says) were up there with the best.
  11. vetraio50 vetraio50, 4 years ago
    MANY THANKS BEAUXPURDY!
  12. vetraio50 vetraio50, 4 years ago
    Many thanks musikchoo, scandinavian_pieces & Slave-to-glass too!
  13. inky inky, 4 years ago
    STUNNING!!!.....:-)
  14. vetraio50 vetraio50, 4 years ago
    Many thanks vintageloveantiques.com & inky in NZ too!
  15. vetraio50 vetraio50, 4 years ago
    Many thanks Londonloetzlearner!
  16. collectort, 4 years ago
    Beautiful..
  17. vetraio50 vetraio50, 4 years ago
    Many thanks collectort!
  18. vetraio50 vetraio50, 4 years ago
    Many thanks mikielikesigns2!
  19. vetraio50 vetraio50, 4 years ago
    Many thanks greatsnowyowl!
  20. Stillwater Stillwater, 4 years ago
    Oh my god... Was this a thrift store find? Or did you pay retail? I really would like to learn about art glass, but it seems like theres soooo much to know... However, THIS would deffinitely be something I'd pick up at a thrift store, its pretty obviously something good
  21. vetraio50 vetraio50, 4 years ago
    It was from the Collector's Fair here in Sydney the first Sunday of each month. I paid eighty for it.
  22. inky inky, 4 years ago
    I have to say it again vetraio5 ..this is gorgeous I love looking at it!.....:-)
  23. Stillwater Stillwater, 4 years ago
    I know my mother has some Loetz thats valuable, that favrile stuff with the sterling overlay, but is it all very valuable? Or only the early pieces like this?
  24. vetraio50 vetraio50, 4 years ago
    I'd have a look at the auction sites. Quittenbaum, Christies, etc. as well as ebay for ideas about values ..... supply and demand are always the determining factors.
  25. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 4 years ago
    you left out the most important factor Vetraio, Condition.. Color also matters what is it, the three c's.. Condition, Color and something else. Maybe Condition again? LOL
  26. vetraio50 vetraio50, 4 years ago
    True snowy! This one is damaged, but then I didn't care.
    Perhaps the other C is "cross-over"?
  27. Alfredo Alfredo, 4 years ago
    CONDITION, COLOR, COST!
  28. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 4 years ago
    for 80 bucks who cares right? I'd have shelled out 80 for it without thinking. :)
  29. vetraio50 vetraio50, 4 years ago
    Many thanls stillwater 'n mikielikesigns2 too!
  30. vetraio50 vetraio50, 4 years ago
    Many thanks Vanessa!
  31. vetraio50 vetraio50, 4 years ago
    Well how did you go at Vinnies?
  32. vetraio50 vetraio50, 4 years ago
    Many thanks kulektor and purpledog too!
  33. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
    Many thanks Leah!
  34. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
    Many thanks epson233 and to you too ks85!
  35. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
    Many thanks go to LisaL from Canada and to dlfd911, ks85, and to you too epson233!
    Thanks to all of you!
  36. kralik1928 kralik1928, 3 years ago
    Looks great, i have seen a cornucopia in a german museum (not Passau) that shows a very similar theme and technique. let me know if you need pic, best guess: Loetz Prochaska
  37. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
    Many thanks kralik1928!
  38. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
    By the way Kralik28 I'd love to see another. Could I get that reference?
  39. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
    Many thanks petey!
  40. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
    Many thanks SEAN and betweentheLens!
  41. Moonstonelover21 Moonstonelover21, 3 years ago
    OMG!!!!
  42. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
    Many thanks ho2cultcha and to you too MoonsoneL! Glad you like it!
  43. ozmarty ozmarty, 3 years ago
    Hi Vet me old cobba , just thought I'd thow a spanner in the works .........
    This could be by Harrach!
    on page 267 of the "New " Book ieFrom Neuwelt to Whole world by Jan Mergl.
    illustration 311 shows similar in this colour .
    will try to scan if I have time latter

  44. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
    Thanks Marty! Love to see it!
  45. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
    Just changed the Title, Mart!
  46. ozmarty ozmarty, 3 years ago
    I'm off to Qld tomorrow and should be out the door now will try to do it
  47. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
    No problems Marty. Maybe some of the hounds will comment. I do not have the book! Enjoy the warmer climes!
  48. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
    Many thanks dlfd911!
  49. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
    Thanks again MSL!
  50. Moonstonelover21 Moonstonelover21, 3 years ago
    Kevin, this one is COOL!!
  51. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
    Hi MSL!
    It looks like it has just been plucked out of the Mediterranean!
    A piece of Mother Nature's Art on the ocean floor.
    I think the construction of the foot is different to the Harrach versions.
  52. Moonstonelover21 Moonstonelover21, 3 years ago
    Kevin, this is so natural and so really amazing to look at!!! Great score!! BTW I am learning to love a piece with it not being totally intact! If we wanted that..we should buy new!!!
  53. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
    Totally correct.


  54. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
    I didn't buy it to sell it.
    There is really only a market for perfect pieces unless they are extraordinarily rare.
    But this has given me great pleasure: the money paid for it has been totally well spent.
  55. Moonstonelover21 Moonstonelover21, 3 years ago
    Kevin, was it reasonable? I love my Blue Kralik from the SA for $2.99 with 2 broken feet ...its one of my nearest and dearest to me...XO
  56. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
    It was no bargain I paid three figures.
  57. SEAN68 SEAN68, 3 years ago
    and it was a stunning 3 figures:)
  58. Moonstonelover21 Moonstonelover21, 3 years ago
    Kevin, oh wow!!!! If I had the money I would have paid that for the vase too!!!! XOXOX
  59. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
    I had sold some stuff and was all cashed up at the time.
    The money itself is not important.
    Money is just time ... and effort.
    A means to an end: Buying eye candy?
  60. Moonstonelover21 Moonstonelover21, 3 years ago
    Kevin, that is what I am doing...selling my personal jewelry to fund my new found glass passion!!!! I need to go to BGAA (Bohemian Glass Aholics Anonymous)..since being on CW!!!!! I was getting over Antique Moonstones! SIGH :0
  61. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
    Many thanks DrFluffy and THOSCAHABA too!
  62. artislove artislove, 3 years ago
    are you sure you didnt scube this from the great barrier reef? nicely done sir you shook the loetz world!!!!lol
  63. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
    Many thanks artislove!
  64. SEAN68 SEAN68, 3 years ago
    Good Moring Kevin!!!
  65. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
    Evening SEAN, 8.20 pm Friday. Have repacked a lot of stuff today.
  66. SEAN68 SEAN68, 3 years ago
    Hello Keving it is 5:23 am here and im having my second cup of coffee :) You have repacked a lot of stuff.
  67. SEAN68 SEAN68, 3 years ago
    Kevin:) damn spell check. im going to have scott fix this sorry about the typo.
  68. SEAN68 SEAN68, 3 years ago
    Later on today kevin ill post the Bohemia crystal , the one I showed u:)
  69. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
    Good. Have you noticed the little Recent Activity pix at the top right?
  70. SEAN68 SEAN68, 3 years ago
    yes. I have :)
  71. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
    Many thanks Deanteaks, tombraider and smiata too!
  72. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
    Many thanks MANIKIN and PHIL too!
  73. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
    Many thanks WEIRDPUCKETT. I really appreciate your kind comments!
  74. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
    Many thanks JACK1989!
  75. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
    Many thanks SIGNAHOLIC!
  76. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
    Many thanks ALDO!
  77. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
    Many thanks BRATJDD!
  78. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
    Many thanks for the loves TOM31675!
  79. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
    Many thanks OLDBOOKS & SMIATA too!
  80. tom61375, 3 years ago
    This piece is all around awesome, and how you aquired it really makes it shine! =)
    Love it!
  81. tom61375, 3 years ago
    You're very welcome vetraio50! =)
  82. Aimathena Aimathena, 2 years ago
    Such a gorgeous piece. oh how I hope I don't get started on these stunning collectables. I'll bankrupt us. LoL
  83. vetraio50 vetraio50, 2 years ago
    Hi AIMATHENA and thanks for the love. This one is pink too!
  84. Aimathena Aimathena, 2 years ago
    it is truly a WOW piece Kev
  85. vetraio50 vetraio50, 2 years ago
    Many thanks TOM61375!
  86. ho2cultcha ho2cultcha, 2 years ago
    really beautiful piece! it reminds me of those handmade studio pieces w/ under the sea themes - made in early to mid nouveau period.
  87. vetraio50 vetraio50, 2 years ago
    Many t hanks COLORI and HO2CULTURE too!
  88. vetraio50 vetraio50, 2 years ago
    Many thanks KERRY10456 'n VIOLETORANGE too!
  89. vetraio50 vetraio50, 2 years ago
    Many thanks TOM!
  90. vetraio50 vetraio50, 2 years ago
    Many thanks AGHCOLLECT!
  91. vetraio50 vetraio50, 2 years ago
    Many thanks SMIATA!
  92. vetraio50 vetraio50, 2 years ago
    Many thanks ANTIQUEROSE!
  93. vetraio50 vetraio50, 2 years ago
    Many thanks TOM!
  94. vetraio50 vetraio50, 2 years ago
    Just changed the photos on this one!
    After 3 years time for a change!
  95. SEAN68 SEAN68, 2 years ago
    these are beautiful photos Kevin!!!
  96. vetraio50 vetraio50, 2 years ago
    Many thanks SEAN, GARY 'n TONINO too!
  97. vetraio50 vetraio50, 2 years ago
    Many thanks ANTIQUEROSE!
  98. vetraio50 vetraio50, 2 years ago
    Many thanks FREIHEIT!
  99. vetraio50 vetraio50, 2 years ago
    Many thanks NITTYGRITTY'n MOON too!
  100. vetraio50 vetraio50, 2 years ago
    Many thanks TED STRAUB!!!!
  101. vetraio50 vetraio50, 2 years ago
    Many thanks KATZL & NORDICMAN !!!!!
  102. vetraio50 vetraio50, 2 years ago
    Many thanks GLUECHIP !!!!!!!!!
  103. vetraio50 vetraio50, 2 years ago
    Many thanks JULIE !!!!!!!!!!
  104. vetraio50 vetraio50, 2 years ago
    Many thanks ROYCROFTBOOKSFROMME !!!!!!!!!!
  105. CollectiblesUnlimited CollectiblesUnlimited, 1 year ago
    That is a beautiful piece!
  106. vetraio50 vetraio50, 1 year ago
    Many thanks COLLECTIBLESUNLIMITED & NORDICMAN !!!!!!!!!

    SEASON'S GREETINGS !!!!!!!
  107. shareurpassion shareurpassion, 1 year ago
    Oh wow! This is really awesome. I imagine this type is quite unique. I love the representation!
  108. vetraio50 vetraio50, 1 year ago
    Many thanks SHAREURPASSION !!!!!!
  109. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 months ago
    Many thanks Dr. K. M. Hasselbach for the Pattern Number identification : "sea-shells 1.05, 1.06 PN=I/7008 1897."

    I have much to learn about early Loetz. I thank KAIROMALTE for the sage article here:
    http://loetz.com/identifying-loetz-glass/early-loetz

  110. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 months ago
    Many thanks LOETZDANCE !!!!!
  111. Deano Deano, 9 months ago
    Wicked Awesome!
  112. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 months ago
    Many thanks DEANO !!!!!
  113. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 months ago
    Many thanks FREIHEIT & EFESGIRL
  114. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 months ago
    Many thanks yet again ALFREDO !!!!!!
  115. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 months ago
    Many thanks VINTAGEFRAN !!!!!
  116. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 months ago
    Many thanks HO2CULTCHA !!!!!
  117. vetraio50 vetraio50, 8 months ago
    Many thanks CAPERKID !!!!!!
  118. vetraio50 vetraio50, 8 months ago
    Many thanks KIVATINITZ !!!!!!!!
  119. vetraio50 vetraio50, 8 months ago
    Many thanks EFESGIRL !!!!!!!
  120. vetraio50 vetraio50, 8 months ago
    Many thanks MELANIEJ !!!!!!
  121. antiquerose antiquerose, 8 months ago
    ~ ~ I loved it AGAIN ~ ~
  122. vetraio50 vetraio50, 8 months ago
    Thanks so much ROSE !!!!!
  123. Alfredo Alfredo, 8 months ago
    I too spotted the Harrach and was utterly flabbergasted. what is the world coming to?
  124. vetraio50 vetraio50, 8 months ago
    Many thanks ALFREDO & KYRATANGO too !!!!!!
  125. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 months ago
    Many thanks FREIHEIT & MACDADDYRICO !!! !!! !!! !!!
  126. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 months ago
    Many thanks BLUEBONNET !!!!!!!
  127. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 months ago
    Many thanks AURA !!!!!!
  128. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 months ago
    Many thanks ANNAB !!!!!!
  129. inky inky, 5 months ago
    Merry Christmas a wonderful New Year vetraio!...xo
  130. vetraio50 vetraio50, 5 months ago
    Many thanks INKY & GLUECHIP !!!!!!
  131. vetraio50 vetraio50, 5 months ago
    Many thanks HO2CULTCHA !!!!
  132. vetraio50 vetraio50, 5 months ago
    Many thanks NICEFICE !!!!!
  133. vetraio50 vetraio50, 5 months ago
    Many thanks MARTIKA for that 80th Love !!!
  134. vetraio50 vetraio50, 5 months ago
    Many thanks SPIRITBEAR & CELIENE too !!!!!

    GAPPY NEW YEAR !!!!!
  135. SpiritBear SpiritBear, 5 months ago
    I saw it and about died. LOL.
  136. vetraio50 vetraio50, 5 months ago
    Thanks Mate ... It's a special thing I believe !!!!
  137. vetraio50 vetraio50, 4 months ago
    Many thanks ANNELANDERS & CELIENE !!!!!!
  138. vetraio50 vetraio50, 4 months ago
    Many thanks SMIATA !!!!!
  139. vetraio50 vetraio50, 4 months ago
    Many thanks BRUNSWICK !!!!!
  140. brunswick brunswick, 4 months ago
    You are so welcome Mr. Vetraio!!!! Thomas.
  141. vetraio50 vetraio50, 4 months ago
    Many thanks THOMAS, SCOTTVEZ & UTTERLYUNIQUE !!!!
  142. vetraio50 vetraio50, 4 months ago
    Many thanks MIDNIGHT !!!!! !!!!! !!!!!
  143. Alfredo Alfredo, 3 months ago
    Shocker: The harrach book has a whole illustration of these . . . as Harrach!!!!!
  144. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 months ago
    Thanks ALFREDO !!!!

    Shock Horror !!!!

    LOL !!!
  145. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 months ago
    Many thanks NICEFICE, SPIRITBEAR, JSCOTTO & CELIENE !!!!!!
  146. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 months ago
    It seems that both Harrach and Loetz did versions of these shell vases around 1897. Alfredo was generous in sending me images of the Harrach pieces and some text that clarifies the question of Harrach and Loetz:

    "The form and execution with a finely spun mesh were most probably inspired by very similar vases-shells produced from 1897 by the Johann Loetz Witwe glassworks in Klastersky Mlyn ..... Vases from Klastersky Mlyn differ in the optical ribbing of the conch and the more elaborate, more sculpturally formed foot with notches."

    If you look at the pictures above it is the notches in the foot that give it away .... PN=I/7008 1897 .

    The Harrach pieces have a pad foot.
  147. vetraio50 vetraio50, 2 months ago
    Many thanks BETTYBOO !!! !!! !!!
  148. vetraio50 vetraio50, 2 months ago
    xMany thanks AUNTMOLLY !~ !!! !!! !!! ~!
  149. vetraio50 vetraio50, 2 months ago
    Many thanks ANTIQUEROSE !!! !!! !!!
  150. vetraio50 vetraio50, 1 month ago
    Many thanks BETTYBOO, JENNYN & ANTIQUEROSE too !!!! !!!!
  151. vetraio50 vetraio50, 1 month ago
    Many thanks TONINO & DESTINYJENNIFER too !!! !!!! !!!
  152. vetraio50 vetraio50, 1 month ago
    Many thanks for that love WINDWALKER !!!! !!!!! !!!!
  153. vetraio50 vetraio50, 1 month ago
    Many thanks NOUVEAUDECO !!! !!!! !!!

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