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Loetz Art Glass579 of 629Iridiscent art deco vaseclassic Loetz blue Papillon circa 1900/ shape 725
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Posted 2 years ago

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LoetzDance
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There are a lot of " rules of thumb" when it comes to collecting Loetz art glass. You will often hear that all Loetz has a polished pontil mark! Or all Loetz vases have polished rather than ground (flat) rims. Many also believe that signatures on Loetz pieces only appear on the rarer and more expensive Phanomen Genres. The photos included here are of a Candia Papillion vase with the coveted Spaun crossed arrows mark. Note the lack of a pontil mark and also the flat ground rim. This vase can be found in the Loetz Bible as documented production number 7609 which was made c1898.

The beginning Loetz collector has a wealth of information available to them such as the website Loetz.com, Loetz books and articles about Loetz fakes. Actually, there is so much information that it can be difficult to absorb it all!

My recommendation is to give it time and let your eyes be your guide. Of course, you will make mistakes now and then as we all have. As long as you don't pay too much for a piece until you are certain what it is even if you love it you should be okay. I have just counted my mistakes as part of my art glass education tuition!

Finally, even though I have never seen an original Loetz vase with a "button pontil" and I doubt that I ever will, I think the only hard and fast rule should be to enjoy the glass that you are adding to your collection and when in doubt trust your eyes!

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  1. LoetzBuddies LoetzBuddies, 2 years ago
    Glad to see the flat rim and no center bottom polished pontil on this Loetz vase. The same is true of the Loetz Titania (blue and green) that I posted a few days ago. I was hesitant to buy it because of these two conditions but I KNEW it was Loetz Titania. As you say sometimes you just have to take a "leap of faith".
    Frank W. Ford
  2. LoetzDance LoetzDance, 2 years ago
    Yes, I love your Titania vase. You did good on that one!! :)
  3. ks85 ks85, 6 months ago
    Great posts, thanks
  4. ks85 ks85, 6 months ago
    I am in DSM and need to make it out to your museum someday.
    Is any of your loetz collection kept there or ever displayed there?
  5. LoetzDance LoetzDance, 6 months ago
    Kyle, I think that is you! Anyway, I believe you are referring to the Figge Art Museum located in Davenport, Iowa. This museum carries the contemporary art glass that we offer in their museum store. If you are ever this way and want to stop by to see and discuss Loetz, please contact me at Deb@moltensplendor.com so we can make further arrangements.
  6. ks85 ks85, 6 months ago
    Yes that's me. That sounds great, I will be sure to do that. Thanks Deb
  7. JayHow JayHow, 5 months ago
    Thank you for the link to this article. I agree. I have a loetz, and working on aquiring another. Now that I have done a little more research I feel confident that this is a true piece. This rusticana piece is the silkiest and smoothest feeling glass that I have ever had in my hands. This is something quite different I feel. Now If I can just find it in the Loetz bible or another site I will feel quite good about it all...I will post on CW very soon. Thanks for the complete story! Much appreciated
  8. LoetzDance LoetzDance, 5 months ago
    Jay, I 'm looking forward to seeing photos of your Rusticana vase posted here soon!
  9. JayHow JayHow, 5 months ago
    Sorry I dosed off for a bit, been a very busy day. Meeting with the family later and wont be online for a while. I did manage to get the Rusticana piece on here though. Im not real happy with the photos but I will get some better pics asap and repost soon. Thanks again for all the great info.
  10. JayHow JayHow, 5 months ago
    would you happen to know where I might find a line drawing of my loetz as well, I would love to be able to add that to my posting as you have here. Awesome!

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