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    Posted 7 years ago

    ho2cultcha
    (5040 items)

    i found this on the sidewalk near my house while walking my dog last night. how bizarre is that?! i don't know whether it is an old piece or a new nazi youth piece or what. i don't know of any nazi groups or nazis around here, but it is oakland, so nothing surprises really.

    any info appreciated. i'm kind of freaked out about finding it!

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    1. Signaholic Signaholic, 7 years ago
      Wow, this cigarette case is quite a find and even though it's offensive, it's also very collectable.
    2. ho2cultcha ho2cultcha, 7 years ago
      do you think it's old/vintage? i really don't know.
    3. vetraio50 vetraio50, 7 years ago
      Bizarre is Right !!!
    4. Signaholic Signaholic, 7 years ago
      I don't know and I am certainly no expert where German WW2 items are concerned.
    5. Signaholic Signaholic, 7 years ago
      Based solely on some quick research I just did, the name on the outside pulled up on google DR. FRITZ DOTD said he was a top Nazi engineer and head of the ammunition dept. He was killed in the plane during the war.
    6. ho2cultcha ho2cultcha, 7 years ago
      wow! i just did some research and i think it is real and very valuable. it's a nazi science/engineering award of merit mounted to a period cigarette case. it was lying there open on the sidewalk and i kicked it thinking it was just a piece of trash.
    7. Signaholic Signaholic, 7 years ago
      Yes, they do have some value, it's apparently a merit award as you say and my guess is the pin clasp that was on the back originally had been removed and it was soldered to this case at some point. Who knows if it was done during the war or sometime after.
    8. TassieDevil TassieDevil, 7 years ago
      Found this site regarding your Award......interesting read......scroll all the way down...
      http://quanonline.com/military/military_reference/german/badges/civilian/todt.php
    9. IVAN49 IVAN49, 7 years ago
      DR. FRITZ TOTD pin (needle) back badges are being made in USA and sold online for $ 25. There are brooch type reproductions with narrow pin, too
      Are there any marks on the cigarette case ? We might determine if it`s silver. If not, the cigarette case is practically worthless. On the other hand, the owner of the badge might have decided to fix it to the cigarette case using soft solder (lead/tin). I`m afraid we will never know if it`s genuine WW II item.
    10. officialfuel officialfuel, 7 years ago
      Your a very lucky man! Great find!

      Michael
    11. Karenoke Karenoke, 7 years ago
      It is a great find!
      I hope it's silver!
    12. SpiritBear, 7 years ago
      Well, it certainly is an odd find.
    13. AmberRose AmberRose, 7 years ago
      Really weird but think it's old. First cigarette case...who has those anymore. Second. Obvious wear. But I don't know. My guesses
    14. ho2cultcha ho2cultcha, 7 years ago
      i think that the badge is silver and the case is nickel plated brass. i also am pretty sure that it is the real thing from all the feedback i've gotten on fb about it [including offers to buy it].
    15. shareurpassion shareurpassion, 7 years ago
      Looks really old to me. Yes offensive to many but worth a grip, I would imagine. Someone probably got a loot and dropped that along the way.
    16. Roycroftbooksfromme1, 7 years ago
      nice find...............So on what street ....lol
    17. ho2cultcha ho2cultcha, 7 years ago
      i cannot answer that Roycroft! i think you may be right shareurpassion!
    18. vintagelamp vintagelamp, 7 years ago
      That does look old. Sounds like you experienced something out of a "Twilight Zone" episode...
    19. dlpetersen, 6 years ago
      Offensive yes but we should never forget even the horrible history. My uncle was in D-Day but he brought home souveners along with bad nightmares.
    20. ho2cultcha ho2cultcha, 6 years ago
      I agree dlp! Thanks for the comment.
    21. TheRolexMan, 3 years ago
      Why do you think it is offensive? It is a beautiful piece, and it has an eagle on it, and a swastika. Nothing offensive at all. I would collect it. I have Hitler stuff, I even have the Wermacht interrogating a Jewish woman just before executing her for partisan activity. It is only offensive if you are small minded. History is important.
    22. scottvez scottvez, 3 years ago
      Are you serious?

      It is historical, AND certainly many folks find the symbols of Nazi Germany offensive.

      A little reading about Nazi Germany may help you to understand why many consider this symbol of hate so offensive!

      scott

    23. Militarist Militarist, 3 years ago
      Wonder if there was a burglary near by?
    24. Stillwater Stillwater, 3 years ago
      You used to be able to catalogue-order Nazi reproduction stuff in the 60's and 70's. In particular I've seen these "German Luftwaffe" paratrooper folding knives at antique malls that are a little old and look old, but they're not as old as the 40's. I've seen maybe a dozen of them around. Fritz Todt is actually a name I know off hand, he was a very, very famous engineer during WWII and pilot I think. Its a little hard to believe his personal cigarette case was lying on a street in Oakland. It would be like finding Dr. Mengele's personal comb.

      Found this on Wiki:

      On 8 February 1944, the second anniversary of Todt's death, Hitler awarded the Dr.-Fritz-Todt-Preis as a Badge of Honor of the Nazi Party for "Innovative accomplishments, which are of great importance for the Volk community because of the improvement of their weapons, ammunition and military equipment, and the saving of labor, raw materials and energy". The Badge of Honor came with a material prize and a certificate, was awarded as a medal made of gold, silver, or steel. The Golden Award of Honor was presented by Hitler in person upon proposal by the responsible Gauleiter, upon the joint proposal of Robert Ley, the director of the corresponding Deutsche Arbeitsfront and NSDAP leaders, and the director of the "Main office for Technology in the NSDAP", Albert Speer.

      And next this article is the same emblem on your case. My guess is that this is a catalogue piece from the 60's-70's.
    25. ho2cultcha ho2cultcha, 3 years ago
      You may be right Stillwater. I don't think that anyone is saying that it belonged to Fritz Todt, but it was a medal awarded in his name by the Nazi gov't.
    26. apostata apostata, 3 years ago
      adversus solem ne loquitor
    27. apostata apostata, 3 years ago
      i could flip this stuff almost every week , i probably would be rich , well i prefer to stay poor
    28. apostata apostata, 3 years ago
      ever heard of Wannsee Conference -

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