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Both of the Thorn vases above are in Vaseline glass with blue feet, 12". the 1929 Butler Brothers catalog offered the one on the right as "Rustic Style Bohemian Glass Vase" (at 72 c. each, boxed) Due to this evidence, they cannot be called "Victorian", which poses an interesting identification challenge. It is becoming increasingly difficult to distinguish between British and Bohemian Thorn vases. I have seen Bohemian Thorn vases being offered in the UK as British. Moreover, I recently had an exchange with a dealer offering a pair of Thorns with applied flowers as Loetz, and citing as his "source" Ricke II. What has been established is the overwhelming importation of Bohemian/Czech glass into the U.S.A. in the years prior to WWII, as evidenced by the West Virginia Museum of American Glass "Czech Glass Catalog", the Butler Catalogs and the research by Bob and Deborah Truitt. I must add that these vases show the persistence of Art Nouveau's concept of "organic form" well into the 20th Century.