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Posted 3 years ago

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Brought back from the European theater, I believe one is a Dove Tail Nazi 33" Sword with Scabbard. But I am having problems identifying the second, It has etching down the blade on both sides, horses, calvary and some sort of insignia (so I am guessing Ceremonial), has GES.GESCH (Legally Protected) etched about 1/3 up blade. The hand guard is etched and outer piece is hinged. I cannot read the font for the inscription, but do recognize Regt. something, something No.19. Also has 59 stamped into blade against hilt.
Would like any info on sword origin, country, etc.

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  1. Chrisnp Chrisnp, 3 years ago
    You’ve got an Imperial German Model 1889 Calvary sword from the German State of Saxony. That’s the Crest for the Kingdom Saxony on the guard. Saxony was part of the Federated States of the German Empire. As such, they had their own military units which were liable to be called to service for the empire. There was a 19th Royal Saxon Hussar Regiment, which was given the honorary title of Crown Prince William of the German Reich and Prussia. What you may be seeing on the side of the blade may be something like “Sachsisches Husaren Regiment ‘Kronprinz Wilhelm des Deutchen Reiches und Preussen Nr 19”? If so, that unit was garrisoned in Grimma, a town between Liepzig and Dresden. Your sword would be from that unit. What’s really great that you appear to have the correct Saxon sword knot attached.
  2. Chrisnp Chrisnp, 3 years ago
    Ok, I was just able to bring up your 4th picture - then this definately the 19th Hussars.
  3. Chrisnp Chrisnp, 3 years ago
    Oh as for the other sword, I believe you meant a "dove head" sword. That's a reference to the shape of the pommel.
  4. Chrisnp Chrisnp, 3 years ago
    Man, I wish I could just edit my posts, sorry to make so many. I just realized your blade has a different honorary title than my reference books give it, yet it is certainly the 19th Hussars. Perhaps the unit was renamed at some point, but the unit kept it's Regimental Number and it's status as a Hussar unit, so it must be the same.
  5. Chrisnp Chrisnp, 3 years ago
    OK, sorry about all these posts. Konigin Karola was the last queen of Saxony, and died in 1907. Apparently for a while the Regiment was named for her.
  6. Pencil-necked-geek, 3 years ago
    Chrisnp... absolutely no reason to be such a useful font of great information ~ no matter how many posts it took to accomplish it!
  7. pjohn323, 3 years ago
    WOW ... Thanks for the replies .. I have been searching online for the Hand Guards Crest (with out luck). Yes the other Sword has a dovetail pommel.
  8. pjohn323, 3 years ago
    Chrispn The dedication is not exactly has you described .. above, but maybe this is clearer http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a247/pjohn323/War%20Relics/DSCF1592.jpg
  9. Chrisnp Chrisnp, 3 years ago
    In the old German script, the small “s” looks like an “f”, this inscription starts with Roman numeral “II”, Kgl is an abbreviation for Koniglich (Royal) and Sachs. Is an abbreviation for Sachisch (Saxon). So it says “II Kgl. Sachs. Husaren Regt. Konigen Karola No. 19.” Which would translate “the Second Royal Saxon Hussar Regiment Queen Carola Number 19.” Regiments often had two numbers. While this was the Second Royal Saxon regiment, it was also the 19th Hussars in the Imperial German Army. Hope that clears it up.
  10. pjohn323, 3 years ago
    Thank You, Thank You ! Appreciate it.

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