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unknown year and location? great condition metal helmet, the number 22 is only leather. please help me to recognize this helmet

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Posted 3 years ago

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bdz
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hello friends please help me to recognize this helmet. An old lady sell this to me and told me this belongs to his past uncle. Im a collector of old coins for almost 20 years now just for fun, but not this kind of stuff. thanks.
descriptions: it looks like hard metal, the only leather is the number 22. its heavy about 2 lbs +

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  1. bdz, 3 years ago
    thanks
  2. solver, 3 years ago
    bdz, you stated in the title "unknown location" so I guess you didn't ask what city the uncle lived? It looks like leather to me, which would be very heavy.

    Is there any label inside, for instance "Cairns & Bro."?

    Not my area of expertise but here is one on ebay with the same ornament but they didn't identify the maker, just Cairns as the lining.
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/180734781891

    Same ornament, identified as Cairns:
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/260862723476

    I didn't see a design patent for Cairns & Bro. (Edward Cairns) that had this ornament, but that doesn't mean anything.
  3. bdz, 3 years ago
    thanks, the old lady lives in new jersey I forgot to ask where her uncle lives. As I examined it again, maybe its a leather that goes so hard like a metal but its heavy weighing 2 lbs. I never touch a firemans helmet before thats why I dont know what its leather weight. No labels or markings to read except the numbers outside.
  4. pickrknows pickrknows, 3 years ago
    This old dog has seen many-a-fire, these helmets are still used in some departments, but mostly went out in the "50's.It is definitly leather,(the new plastic composit ones would actually melt in too much heat), the old leather ones just get that weathered look.This looks like a '30's-'40's vintage,probably Cairns.Nice piece of history!
  5. railnsail, 2 years ago
    Your helmet came from the New York Fire Department. The cut-out white 22 is Engine 22 Manhattan. The painted number below is the Fireman's badge number. The helmet and front shield are 1940s-1960s vintage.
  6. Paulbalentine, 2 years ago
    This is a leather firefighers helmet as others have stated. It is indeed from the FDNY (Engine 22, Manhattan) this helmet is old (at latest, early 1950's) any firefighter worth his salt wears a helmet that is virtually unchanged from this design. They do make composite/plastic helmets but any hardcore firefighter wouldn't be caught dead in anything but leather. This style survived into the early 1980's before falling out of favor for the popular (at the time) helmet which most of us know as a "pisspot" or "salad bowl" in the early 1990's leather helmets came back with gusto, and continue to be the choice of many firefighters even today despite their $500.00 price tag.

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