Posted 12 years ago
michelleam…
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These came out of my grandparent's estate Boxes. They are in perfect condition, though the electrical wiring should be replaced!! I found just the 026(?),something(?), Italy, written under the glaze under the lamp. The figures and painting are beautiful, with lots of gilt, and the porcelain has holes in the pattern, which look black in the photos. Has anyone ever seen lamps like this before? Once again, I have googled and found that the Italian "CapodiMonte and/or Majolica" made lamps that are very similar, right down to the brass cherubs or dolphin feet with the round base with a pattern of holes, and the painted porcelain with holes in the design. Does anyone have a clue?? Especially as to what the writing is between the 026 and ITALY? Thank you, again, for your time and attention, Michelle Amieux,
Thanks Rob. I saw a lot of very similar pieces in the CapodiMonte style, What does "tin glazed pottery" mean? Apart the obvious 026 and Italy, the other word is in cusive and appears to say "Spes" or specs", does anyone know the secret to the mystery...
Thank you Bellin and trgrubaugh!
nice lamps you have
Thank you Lundy, I am still trying to understand what "tin glazed pottery" means. ROBinHawaii mentioned that, apart the base, which seems more like brass, I am not sure where the "tin glaze" comes in. I LOVE this Show and Tell page, it is a wonderful asset for those of us who have become the keepers of the family treasures!!
yes its awesome the people are very nice also
hi sent u email are your lamps valuble
@ scottscuff. Thank you for that bit of research. I should have done it myself, yet my list of things do do overfloweth!! I truly appreciate your help and will follow up to find some examples. Thank you again! Michelle
Thank you Scott. Those are so close. The footwork and pedestal are identical. I am convinced these must be the CapodiMonte/Majolica style or Company. Thank you again for helping with this research. You are very kind!! The one lamp is glued to the base where the other has detached, which is the only reason I could get the picture of the writing in the bottom. With most of these lamps it is probably very difficult to photograph the porcelain bottom of the lamps. Thank you, Michelle
@ Scott, once again, thank you. I will go to capodimonte logo factory marks...onward with the mystery, thank you so much for your help, Michelle
Hi
These are not Capodimonte marks but Capodimonte in style only. They are based on 17th century Italian allegorical (story telling) scenes with the porcelain pierced around the shoulders which is a chinese influence. The bronze style stands are quite unusual but do keep with the allegorical them. They are definitely Italian and date from between 1900 and 1920.
Dean
Dean, thank you so much. I had come up with so many variations on the theme, in any kind of search for similar lamps and realized that many copies must have been made, as the first post stated. I would love to know the story they are telling as there appears to be a couple courting while right around the bend is what appears to be a wounded person, maybe the story of a woman leaving one man for another, and the wounded guy has got a broken heart! Tell me Dean, is it the marks that tell you these are not Capodimonte, or have you seen similar lamps in your business? Thank you so much for yet another clue. Maybe, when I get time, I will try to photograph the whole round scenario and you might recognize the 17th c. allegory they are talking about!! Thank you for your time Dean, I have one other lamp I have yet to post, it is very ornate, when I post it I will see if you recognize it. Thank you again, Michelle
Hi Michelle
No problems at all for the information and many thanks for your kind words!
With regards to the Allegory, a few more pictures may help but there are so many allegorical scenes, it may be hard to pin it down. The marks you see are just generic country of origin marks as when items were to be exported into the USA, the McKinley tariff declared that after 1891, ALL items for export had to have their country of origin. Then, in around 1924, the tariff was further refined to have the words "made in" added to the country or origin - i.e "made in italy". This is almost true for 98% of items though some modern piece still just have their country of origin. Capodimonte used the crown of Naples either Black or Blue as a mark, or sometimes hand written in gold but they always had "capodimonte" if hand written and used nothing else. Here is a link to a very good selection of Capodimonte marks through the ages
http://capodimonte-marks.seebyseeing.net
I look forward to seeing the other vases and assisting you with identifiying them also
Dean
Dear Dean and all the CW "Think Tank", please excuse my absence and lack of posting(ie:back of mirror), but I have serious logistic problems...namely, my roof sprung a leak and destroyed my kitchen/bathroom ceiling. Holy cow!! I have been staying at my neighbor's, but sneak in before the workmen to check e-mails. I haven't been able to post anything and my house looks like the Moon, or at least the thin white dust covering the Moon!! Of course it is still raining...aaargh..so I will be back as soon as this little nightmare is over. I have so many more things to post and discover, Dean, you have been very kind, as is everybody on this wonderful site. Talk to you as soon as I, literally, have a roof over my head!! Best wishes and good finds!! Mich
One more question, Dean...what do you think the "spes(?)" between the #'s and the Italy mean? I can't quite figure out what letter they are. Have you ever seen that word or name before? Or can you even see the picture well enough? I thank you again for the years of work you have researched and your willingness to share your knowledge with those, like myself, who are total amateurs, just going through the Grandparent's estate boxes, CW offers so much help finding out what these items are!! Thank you, Mich
Hi Michelle
It could be "specs" but very hard to tell. It could also be the painters initials, pseudo name
Dean