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Posted 3 years ago

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Hardbrake
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I found this hood ornament laying on a store room floor about 45 years ago. It had fallen out of a storage box. I have made it the center piece of my dresser for the last 35 years before it was the center piece of my head board. She is made of cast steel and chrome plated and porcelain coated. She has been hit on the nose and chin which chipped the porcelain a little. She sets under glass on my dresser in a lighted beer bottle display which I converted to her display. On the base is her name "Betty" and on the back it reads the copyright mark and HDG or a C 192?. The last number is unreadable due to the heavy chrome. This belonged to my step dad who placed it on his car in the 1920's. I do not know if she is named Betty for Betty Boop and she looks ART Deco to me. All I do know is she is a Hood Ornament. What company and is Betty, Betty Boop? She was manufactured before the hot rod age came into its own she is more model T, but still hot in my book. The 21st, of July, 2013 I identified "Betty" as being made to show support to a "Betty Becker Pinkston" a young California, woman whom earned a Gold and a Silver medal in the 1924 Olympic Games in Diving. She also earned a Gold medal in the 1928 Olympic Games. One of the members of Collectors Weekly "Phil David Alexander Morris" is directly responsible for providing me the information that help me identify "Betty." Once armed with a name identifying Betty was simple. I believe that "Betty" was manufactured by the National Novelty Company. Thank You Phil. Hardbrake

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  1. rocker-sd rocker-sd, 3 years ago
    Hello again, I believe what you have is another deco figure in the style of Frankart. This one was probably produced by a another deco artist Betty Beck. I have a 1920's ashtray by her you can see here to the right of the lamp.

    http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/47910-bradley-and-hubbard-slag-glass-lamp?in=user

    for more information check this out, 3rd paragraph


    http://luxurymodernhome.hubpages.com/hub/Art-Deco-Figure
  2. PhilDavidAlexanderMorris PhilDavidAlexanderMorris, 3 years ago
    She could be some flapper girl from the mid to late 1920's around the time Joan Crawford came out with her flapper dance movies, this reminds me of those also, especially the hair. Phil
  3. michelleamieux michelleamieux, 3 years ago
    They just don't make things like they used to....LOVE THIS!! Mich
  4. oldstuffchooser, 3 years ago
    So glad to see your item. We have one very much like yours, except ours has a green dress and green boots, also with the name "Betty " on the bottom and a date of 1923. Have you found out any new information on this item? Do you have any idea at all about it's value? We haven't had much luck gathering info on ours, and we've done a ton of research. Thanks!
  5. Hardbrake Hardbrake, 3 years ago
    Thank you for the information but I have not found out anything as of yet. Several years ago I was told that there was two types of Betty hood ornaments but I have not found any info other then that. I will keep looking Please let me know if you find out anything Hardbrake
  6. Hardbrake Hardbrake, 1 year ago
    Thanks for the information and offer but "Betty" and I have been a pair so to speak for over 40 years and she sets in the middle of my dressers top and lights up the dark when ever I turn her on. I would not know how to replace her or what to replace her with, What I would like to know is a few things about her past. Who produced her? From 1923 to what year was she produced? Is she named after the famed "Betty Boop" or just "Betty" because the manufacture liked the name? What is the name of your friends book and when was it printed. Thanks Hardbrake
  7. PhilDavidAlexanderMorris PhilDavidAlexanderMorris, 1 year ago
    There is no information about betty in the book or in other books that I have seen, I have found some info including an advertisement, and some info on the person who this was modelled after, and I also know that 2 different betty's exist, both close to each other, one with the slightly longer more styled hair was for a blonde betty. She had nothing to do with Betty Boop who came along after 1924 or so, when the betty was made. Phil.
  8. Hardbrake Hardbrake, 1 year ago
    Thank you for the information I will continue my search about "Betty." I glad to know that Betty has nothing to do with Betty Boop. If you could remember the name of the model it would be of great help to me, thank you once again Hardbrake aka as John
  9. PhilDavidAlexanderMorris PhilDavidAlexanderMorris, 1 year ago
    Here is the info you requested :
    Betty Becker Pinkston won gold and silver in diving at the 1924 Olympics in Paris.
    I do not know the HDG mark but C192? = C1923.
    Betty was famous in California before her Olympic win and it would seem that
    the mascot preceeded the win.
  10. Hardbrake Hardbrake, 1 year ago
    Thank you very much Phil, I learned more today about "Betty" then I have discovered in the last 40 years. I truly appreciate the information that you have given me. I will now discover all the information I can about Betty Becker Pinkston. It's members like you that make me stay on as a member of Collectors Weekly, Hardbrake
  11. Hardbrake Hardbrake, 1 year ago
    ONCE AGAIN THANKS PHIL
  12. PhilDavidAlexanderMorris PhilDavidAlexanderMorris, 1 year ago
    You are welcome -- can you email me again. I have some new info in the form of some jpegs which I spent the last while trying to restore.
  13. PhilDavidAlexanderMorris PhilDavidAlexanderMorris, 1 year ago
    Sent you the jpegs now. May find image of the other betty to send to you also.
  14. walksoftly walksoftly, 1 year ago
    Well done Phil, nice to see CW members helping each other out!
  15. gargoylecollector gargoylecollector, 1 year ago
    ^ditto!
  16. Zowie Zowie, 1 year ago
    It's the first I have seen of this sort nice like the unusual
  17. swimminghalloffame swimminghalloffame, 9 months ago
    Regarding the "Betty" hood ornament. Like you, we presumed that the "Betty" was Betty Pinkston, but there is something strange about the reported date of 1923 on the original sculptures because Betty Becker Pinkston was relatively unknown in 1923 and had moved to the east coast. However, there was another "Betty," Betty Williams - who was a star professional diver and swimmer for Madison Square Garden. The image of her that appears in the New York Tribune from 1921 bears a striking resemblance to the "Betty" hood ornament. I'm inclined to believe that the ornament is not of Betty Pinkston, but Betty Williams. You can see for yourself at the link below. By the way, our "blonde and brunette" Betty's are ceramic reproductions as we have been unable to find any originals.

    http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030214/1921-08-14/ed-1/seq-51/#date1=1920&index=0&rows=20&words=MADISON+MERMAIDS+SQUARE&searchType=basic&sequence=0&state=&date2=1922&proxtext=mermaids+of+madison+square&y=12&x=10&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=1
  18. swimminghalloffame swimminghalloffame, 9 months ago
    When I say she was relatively unknown in 1923, there were several other divers who were much more well known, having won Olympic titles in 1920. Moreover, Betty Pinkston was not from California. You can learn more about Betty Pinkston on our Hall of Fame website below. http://www.ishof.org/Honorees/67/67bbpinkston.html
    The background of "Betty" Williams however, is a mystery - but her picture in the Tribune article is remarkably similar to "Betty".
  19. Hardbrake Hardbrake, 9 months ago
    Thank you for the information and I agree with you, your ceramic reproduction are very close to my Betty. I found a decal for sale on e-bay which had a drawing of Betty Pinkston on it and it was close to my Betty also. This Betty was owned originally by a Mr. Macolm DeWeese who purchased it for his model T's hood in the 1920's. He lived in San Bernardino, California at the time. I will continue to look at any other information that comes my way. Your opinion obviously carries a lot of weight based on your knowledge and it has given me a lot to ponder. Thank you if you discover anything more I would love to hear it, I hope your New Year is an outstanding one, Hardbrake.
  20. swimminghalloffame swimminghalloffame, 9 months ago
    I've posted an article on this "mystery" on out website. I've never seen a photo of Betty pinkston in bathing shoes like the Betty mascots. But the ones worn by Betty Williams in the Tribune article are exact. Then there is the hair. A question for you. How tall is your original? Here's the link to my article
    http://www.ishof.org/pdf/betty-hood-ornaments.pdf
  21. Hardbrake Hardbrake, 9 months ago
    Thank You for the link: I measured Betty at about 5 1/4 tall and 3 1/2 at the widest part (finger tips to finger tips). I did not measure the mounting bolt as I would have to remove parts of the stand that it's mounted on. Hardbrake
  22. swimminghalloffame swimminghalloffame, 9 months ago
    Thanks Hardbrake. We made a lucky guess and our reproductions are almost exactly the same size. I've only seen your and on the internet the blonde that we also copied. Do you have any idea if there are any others out there? They are clearly an interesting bit of swimming history trivia, which is why have them in our museum.
  23. Hardbrake Hardbrake, 9 months ago
    To answer your question if I have seen any other out there the answer is simply NO. I have looked in 100's of Antique stores and never seen a one. One person sent me a e-mail saying that they had a blond Betty but I have not seen it. Hardbrake
  24. outhousepatrol, 9 months ago
    I have a Betty hood ornament of mascot or? Different than above in that she is 8 5/8 tall and 5 1/2 to finger tips with a base of 2 3/8. Has a bolt to screw to something and square nut. Also is marked "Betty" but at the back C for Copyright, and Del Cand LA 1923. I believe Los Angeles. Also looks like the one in the Betty sticker pic posted by swimminghalloffame. I was about to put this on ebay but figured I needed more info. Not much info out but looks more like Williams. Note has the lace up booths not shoes. Material, very heavy, maybe steal? She is solid!
  25. Hardbrake Hardbrake, 9 months ago
    Outhousepatrol: Gee I wish I could help you and I guess I can and here how. Go to hood ornaments on Collectors Weekly and find a posting by PhilDavidAlexanderMorris, he has several or contact him at his e-mail address - carmoscot@hotmail.com. Please tell him I suggested him. He would more then likely would know something about it.
  26. outhousepatrol, 9 months ago
    Thanks was fun reading all this. I found another area with other info but nothing about the company that made mine. I've had it for years, almost want to keep it but time to pass it to a collector that is more into hood ornaments than I am. Yours with paint is great. Mine has no paint. I cant figure how to put up a picture here.
  27. Hardbrake Hardbrake, 9 months ago
    Post a picture is simple just make sure it is not a big file and go to post and item and it will direct you as what to do. I have an attachment to mine almost like a pet or buddy I had her so long. You can e-mail me at goldendigor@gmail.com if you have any question also you can send a picture that way to me, thanks.
  28. swimminghalloffame swimminghalloffame, 8 months ago
    outhousepatrol, I'd love to talk to you about your hood ornament and if possible, see a picture. You can email me at bwigo@ishof.org to establish direct contact. Hardbrake, thanks for your postings....
  29. Hardbrake Hardbrake, 8 months ago
    I will send you an e-mail in a second or two.

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