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Posted 2 years ago

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Agram.m
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This is a so-called Blackamoor stick pin or hat pin. Gold or silver (it's so tiny I can't make out even the color, but it has a gold color even after polishing) enamelled with a Ruby or Garnet. The head is of onyx or black chalcedony with coral on the head. I would really like to get your opinion on this. There are two obties as far as I am concerned.
The first is that this is a French gold enamelled Blackamoor dated c 1870. The second option is dated mid 1930. How can I date and know what material the head itself was made of. It's all so tiny. Please your opinion !

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  1. bratjdd bratjdd, 2 years ago
    How long is the stick pin?
  2. Agram.m Agram.m, 2 years ago
    Hello bratjdd, Thanks for your quick reply. The pin itself is 6.5 cm(2.5"). The whole Blackamoor pin is 8.7 cm (3.5").
  3. bratjdd bratjdd, 2 years ago
    WOW!! I love it ,Thanks i would like to post what i believe is a pin to can you give me advise?? Thanks again.
  4. Agram.m Agram.m, 2 years ago
    Thanks Kevin, again you are right it must indeed be a stick pin. But please could you also explain what is crimping?
  5. Agram.m Agram.m, 2 years ago
    Hi Kevin, In general I understand English well and after you explanation my first idea was right. This stick pin, the watch fob and also a large beautyful Satsuma brooch I could buy a bargain. It strikes me that many people actually often sell antique jewelry and are unaware of the value. At least in my area. Is this also the case in the U.S.?
  6. Agram.m Agram.m, 2 years ago
    Here in our country we don't have often garage sells. And if there are there is old furniture and paintings and so on. But we have a "local" version of eBay. When I started my serious collecting I sold also a very very old Micro Mosaic pendant for a good price but far under the really value. So, I've to learn also!
  7. Agram.m Agram.m, 2 years ago
    I just discovered that my very nice Micro Mosaic dove brooch (also here on CW) was sold at Christies in London for the amount of $3002, lucky me! But I don't want to sell I love it too much!
  8. Agram.m Agram.m, 2 years ago
    Thanks all the fans who loves this blackamoor stick pin!
  9. Agram.m Agram.m, 2 years ago
    Thanks Bellin68, we share this love
  10. Agram.m Agram.m, 2 years ago
    Thanks scandinavian_pieces for your kind words!
  11. Agram.m Agram.m, 1 year ago
    Dr. Fluffy did you see the comparing earrings? Please take a look?
    http://www.collectorsweekly.com/user/Agram.m/coral-jewelry
    Thanks for looking and loving.
  12. kyratango kyratango, 5 months ago
    Hi Agram! Found this old post from you just now...
    Black part is enamel, as the white parts of the turban. This motif is Venetian, was very popular at the end of the XIXth still in vogue, exist in earrings, pins, even parure!
    Seeking for more pics, found these:

    http://www.webjewels.it/fiumani.htm
    and for the story picked on this site:

    http://www.veneziagioielli.com/scheda.php?id=99

    Blackamoor Adriatic Series Sea Brooche moor "Fiumani"
    Yellow Gold18 kt Diamond and coral in the turban Enamel black and white Original Model Fiumani Dimension cm 5 Price confidential Moretto model enamelled Adriatic sea: Brief history Where did Moretto jewel of the Adriatic sea? This kind of dark seems born in the Near East, led by women to the ears. The continuous contacts of sailors with the lands of the East for their businesses have helped to introduce, even in Rijeka, the earrings from the dark brown. Maybe it's happened before in Rijeka s' settled after more or less bloody struggles, the Republic of Venice (May 1508). The Moors as those represented here, had the shape of the head of the Negro with a Muslim turban, gold and enamel, and soon conquered the entire coast of Dalmatia. Only later was applied to the crescent and the star refers to the domination of the Turks. Today, the laboratories who make them are really rare.

    Mystery solved!

  13. Roycroftbooksfromme1 Roycroftbooksfromme1, 5 months ago
    nice job ,,kyratango,
  14. kyratango kyratango, 5 months ago
    :-) Roy!
  15. Agram.m Agram.m, 5 months ago
    kyratango, what good! You solved indeed the mystery, thanks a lot for your efforts. Some 2 years ago I placed the whole set (with earrings) you can see them here: http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/57324-gold-blackamoor-earrings
  16. kyratango kyratango, 5 months ago
    You're very welcome, Agram. And, I saw your set, well matched!
  17. Agram.m Agram.m, 5 months ago
    kyratango, thanks again for your compliment. I wish you a very good Easter weekend.

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