Posted 1 year ago
Kathyann
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I am thinking of getting this 1894 Hilda Clark CoCa Cola poster restored but want to know if it would be worth it thank you, It is from a pub in England and was glued to an oil painting
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Wow, condition is... well, she's there alright. That would be some restoration job. Have you had it looked at, any idea if it actually can be restored and what it would cost?
I believe this is from 1903 and still haven't seen this exact design yet. It's similar to the 1903 calendar but not quite. Still researching....
What size is this?
it is 20 x30 I think yes I have had it looked at they said it was an1894 poster one of the first and the only one they could find that is still around. and yes I have had it looked at to restore it and it can be done but I have to find out if this was done in brown shades or was it in color back then I don't be leave it was done in color at that time and I don't see any color left on mine, but I need a picture of one like mine so they can restore it so if anyone finds one let me know thanks Kathy
As TGBWC pointed out, the image is one from a 1903 poster and calendar. Yes, it would have been in color. But I would not assume it's authentic. One of the early sign experts will have to weigh in.
Who is "they" that looked at it?
Check this out, it's an ad that looks just like your poster:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1904-COCA-COLA-AD-LADY-WITH-FAN-DRINKS-COKE-/160789059473
I was already told it was real by a place in Penn. they researched it and called in experts on it. they also told me it was one of a kind they could not find another one like in this big because the big ones were sent to England and not in the U S the ones here were smaller
Well...it could very well be an original. But then, Coca-Cola wasn't introduced in England until the early 1930s:
http://www.coca-colaconversations.com/my_weblog/2010/05/interesting-english-sales-aids.html
to TGBWC it was an auction place in Penn. I would have to look up the paper work it was 9 years ago. thanks for the picture but it looks like they don't sell for much do they
so it looks like the people in Penn. didn't know what they were talking about
Morphy Auctions?
yes that sounds Like it are they any good?
Of course, what I referenced was a magazine ad. Yours is definitely poster size and I'm still intrigued by it. I'm going to contact a few people to try and get more info....
I guess I'm confused. The experts said it was from 1894, but the image is actually from 1903. The experts said these larger posters were not used in the U.S. but shipped to England, but Coke wasn't introduced in England until 1930's. The poster was from a pub in England, glued to a painting, but was sold by an auction in PA. Sheesh! Talk about provenance!
that is pretty cool to have! Make sure you hang on to it and/or have a air tight glass protection on it to keep it from the elements.
to TGBWC thank and I would be grateful for anything you may find out about it
Dan Morphy/Gary Metz are considered the best in the auction, appraisal business.
they are the ones that looked at it said they couldn't tell me what it was worth because they had nothing to compare it to and to sell it I need to restore it
I emailed The Coca-Cola Archives and another Coca-Cola expert. I should hear back tomorrow with some news.
Signing off for the night...
From Ted Ryan, The Coca-Cola Company Archives Mgr:
"There were two Hilda Clark posters produced in 1903, but the size of yours does not match. The posters were either 14.5 x 19.5 or 29 x 44. Also, they do not have the bottle reference."
This poster, even if it's authentic, would be next to impossible to restore. A professional restorer would basically have to be a painter in this case, because fading is throughout this poster. And to restore this, would mean that it would lose all historic value associated with it. It would simply become a poster with all new paint applied to it. Also, not sure how this paper will hold out, with a new layer of paint applied. This isn't just a touch up; this requires the entire poster to be repainted.
My advice to you Kathyann: keep this as is. Place it in an archival, acid-free frame under glass (any professional framer will be able to do this as long as they have experience framing rare documents.). Then display it away from direct sunlight and in a air environment-controlled room.
Hopefully, earlycoke will chime in and give his professional advice on framing, displaying...
Good luck and thanks for sharing. Hoping we don't see this listed on eBay tomorrow. :)
never ebay for this girl she needs a loving home
Chris Cloutier at poster fix corp. was going to do the restoring of the poster put it on a linen backing
Yes, posterfix does good work, but usually they have a partial poster in original colors to start with. Restoring is one thing. Rebuilding and repainting completely is another. Just curious what he quoted you to restore your poster?
It's not authentic, so restoring it will yield a reproduction of a reproduction. Maybe I missed something...
he said it would be 1200 to 1600 to restore it
Mr Daddy_Nobucks .... if you have nothing helpful to say just don't say anything ,I came on here to find out more about my picture so far you have been rude and cridical of everything please go away thank you
Sorry Kathyann, not meaning to be rude. Anybody who knows me here can attest to my sincerity. I thought you wanted to know if it was worth putting money into it. I won't comment again. Best of Luck.
I am sorry if I hurt you but this picture has been in the hands of experts for a month they looked it over and called other people in to look at it and they all told me it was real and then shipped it back to me
Well...I just received this email from a prominent and well respected authority/author of Coca-Cola memorabilia:
"A cheap reprint! It looks like it has no color, and even badly faded and abused item have some trace of color. Old inks remained colorfast very well, unlike today's inferior inks. Also the size is wrong. And Morphy's has sold phony items as original on occasion."
This item is most likely a print of an early ad that has been mounted to canvas. It would have been printed on a heavy cardboard in multiple colors in a chromolithographic process. (visit earlycoke.com to read about the printing process). It also would likely have had some embossing.
Even if this were an authentic item, it is worth very little in this poor condition.
Restoration is not recommended. Save your money and keep it and enjoy it for whatever you believe it to be.
thank you all for helping me
dear earlycoke #1 I know who found it rolled up in a basement in a pub in England #2 she glued it to an oil painting it was not printed on cardboard but paper it was found in the early 1900's