Posted 1 year ago
Alfredo
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Do I ever know this shape! I have it in Neptune green and Neptune clear, Red Rusticana and Olympia Spiraloptisch (see earlier post). But this is the first time I find it in Tango. There are two sizes, of which this pitcher, at 5.5" high, is the smallest. Transparent orange glass instead of the usual clear on orange opaque glass. It has an applied black cased in clear handle and a ground and polished pontil. The handle bends a little sharper than the others, but it is unmistakably Loetz.
By the way, my earlier post was 27 days ago from today.
If it is French, I'll keep it. I have a De Feure Daum Pitcher, so why not a Scneider?
By the way, I violated my own rule, used the dreaded words: "unmistakably Loetz". Here's to mud in my eye! A perfect example of identification by fantasy wish fulfillment!
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Life is full of coincidences. There is what looks like an identical jug (but 8 3/4") on UK eBay, complete with six tumblers, being sold as Schneider! I was already wondering before your post ... now I know they have it wrong.
But then they have two more, that equally look the same, both with green handles and one of which is marked France on the base. Now I'm confused. Back to my drawing board, I think, and apologies to all.
Quite fascinating indeed. The description of the one sold on Trocadero with a green handle reads: "POWDERED ORANGE GLASS"--. I do not think that is the case with this one. Of course, I have yet to receive it!
I haven't seen a sold one - the 3 I've seen are still for sale, no ref to powder glass that I can see, and very hard to tell if the glass is the same as yours. I was going on shape! It's interesting, however, that the marked one, on the basis of which they seem to attribute the others, has a different, rounded handle - more Victorian looking. But - the tumblers with that one are the same design as the Loetz-looking one. Over to the expert, I think my ignorance is showing again!
Al
these are indeed Schneider -they are pictures in amongst the original Schneider catologue pages- I'd hate to admit to the amount of this and related suites I have collected over the years! They come in this colour, a redder orange -they called 'tango' -yellow and green -they come with beer mugs and handled mugs and matching trays in many sizes, there are bowls and plates - and with clear foots they also come in suites of glasses. -And yes they are powdered glass between two layers of clear - like all Daum and Schneider 'Jades'. One of my all time favourite designs
cheers - Mike
It will be quite interesting to place it next to my legitimate Czech Tango pictures . . . It does open yet another can of worms in terms of the relationship between French and Czech, just as there is one already open on the British and Czech.
On the issue of Loetz shape, and the previous posts of Loetz decors in this shape, could the inspiration (if not the actual jug) be the Marie Kirschner design 1090/20 (2/439) on page 338 of Ricke II?
I'd say this particular handle is clearly Kirshner-inspired. But--there remains to be seen if those pointed handles were really Kirshner's or whether she had been "inspired" by someone else!
You see my Rickes have arrived!
A pity you do not have the English version with the CD.
I have the German version of the English version with the CD, but I haven't managed to open it yet. It arrived yesterday while I was in Court - work is getting in the way of glass!