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Asian Antiques2658 of 358315" tall crystalline glaze vessel - Jingdezen c. 1970Lithograph print from Japan.
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Posted 2 years ago

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Johnkat
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I inherited these two statues about 20 years ago. I have no information about them. I tried the hot nail test - it did not make any mark.

Statues are about 3' tall. There are some oriental-type markings on the bottom. I will post a photo of them.

Can anyone help me with identifying them? Thank you.

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  1. jwendell222, 2 years ago
    Hi, very interesting Chinese emperor/empress figures. The dyes are quite unususal for ivory. I downloaded the jpegs and adjusted contrast, brightness and color and I can't get a feel for the material. It's not african elephant ivory, but that leaves a number of other possible ivories and a world of other materials. The hot needle test (I hope you meant needle, nail!, wow, that's brutal) only eliminates some of the man-made materials (resins for example), but not all. It would be nice to see the base marks, they can be added with 'edit', but identity from those is a long shot. Regards, Jim
  2. Johnkat, 2 years ago
    Jim - I uploaded photos of the bottom markings. They are both from the Emperor statue. Thanks again, John
  3. jwendell222, 2 years ago
    Hi John, pretty sure your figures are a manmade molded material. If you will click on my username, scroll down to 5 months 8 days ago and open the pair of vases I have posted, you will find your mark. The discussion on the vases will help a little. I have been looking for this mark for decades, actively and casually, without success. I suspect they (and your figures) were made in Italy, a source of much molded Asian art and some oriental theme chess sets.. If you will scroll back 11 days ago and open my posting on Action figures, there is more. All of the Italian pieces that I have seen are on the high end for molded art. Please keep in touch, regards, Jim
  4. Johnkat, 2 years ago
    Jim - Thanks for all the great info. It's a real coincidence that you have pieces in your collection bearing the same marks. The fact that the pieces may be molded but are unaffected by the hot nail test is interesting. I would have thought that a liquid heat-activated material would not be so heat resistant after solidification. Maybe it was chemically activated, like some form of epoxy.
  5. jwendell222, 2 years ago
    John, go here and look at the properties of this material, ivorine, developed in the late 1800s. Your pieces are a candidate for this or a very similar material. Note that it does not melt, a characteristic required for a hot needle test.
    http://www.cuestik.com/store/product.asp?DEPARTMENT_ID=170&ITEM_ID=5903
    I've posted our mark on an Asian forum of which I am a member, should get upward of 1500 looks in the space of a month. Will let you know if I get a hit.
    Regards, Jim
  6. bpete202, 2 years ago
    Wow...it's amazing because my father has very similar statues. The make of them are basically the same except the colors are slightly different... Where yours has blue it's green on ours, the red is darker, and the ivory itself is darker. I was wondering if you had found anything out about these because it's driving me crazy trying to find information on them.
  7. Johnkat, 2 years ago
    All I know so far is what you read here. Are the maker's marks on the bottom the same?

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