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Posted 4 years ago

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lisaann
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these were my grandmothers. i dont know what they are for sure.guessing candle holders.. im intrigued by them. can you give me any info on them..I have showed them to 3 antique dealers that didnt know for sure what they were either..1 dealer thought they might be reverse glass???..one of them on the bottom says pat. august 11 ,1896.

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  1. ozmarty ozmarty, 4 years ago
    Fabulous! is the background colour painted or solid (all through the glass)?
    How tall are they?
  2. lisaann, 4 years ago
    it is painted behind the glass..and seems to be hollow in the middle..there is a rod of sorts that goes up the inside..and a square screw on the bottom that holds it there,
  3. ozmarty ozmarty, 4 years ago
    They do appea to be candle holders, possible part of a set of garniture may be a larger vase or even a clock would sit between them on a mantle piece. The most unusual thing for me is the photographs attached to them.The glass is painted to resemble agate.
  4. lisaann, 4 years ago
    any idea where i can find more info on them.. even possibly what they are worth.
  5. lisaann, 4 years ago
    i cant figure out how they got the picture on it.. its intrgueing..
    you dont happen to live close to iowa ozmarty do you?
  6. lisaann, 4 years ago
    if they are candle holders what is the reason for the screw in the bottom with a rod like going inside...????grandma couldnt talk much and when i was young never had a thought of finding out about them..shoot!! i also have a couple lantern (very small that were grandmas when she was little.. i will post them later this week..ozmarty thank you for your help so far!! means alot!
  7. ozmarty ozmarty, 4 years ago
    Lisaann, I live about as far away from Iowa as I could get ... In Canberra Australia!
    The frame for the photo could be glued or held buy screws/ rivetts through the glass . If you took one apart you may find out . Ah! the screw if it pushes up ward would be a candle ejector (push rod ejector) to get the candle stub out.
    It is my pleasure to give of what little knowledge I have .As for value??? try Kovels
  8. katy, 4 years ago
    i am just wondering...could they be an urn? cremation? etc. LOL? It is beautiful.
  9. lisaann, 4 years ago
    holy mackrel.. never thought about that, katy...
    i know grandpa was buried but dont know about the rest of the family..lol
    ozmarty.. would make sense except for the fact that where the candle might go if in fact that is what it is..it dosent go all the way through from the top..to push a candle stub out.. now im really getting more and more intrigued.. i will try kovels later today
  10. Nancy Salisbury, 4 years ago
    They look to me as if they could be urns for an infant . Perhaps the one in the picture . With candle holders in the top to hold in the ashes . Thus the reason for the screw on the bottom to hold the candle holders in place and keep the ashes in . Just my opinion .
  11. ozmarty ozmarty, 4 years ago
    The push rod does not have to go all the way to the top just free the stub. I have some Victorian brass ones right here that do that.Do both pieces have the same infants photo? I would never have guessed at funnerary urns / jars but all things are possible . That would also make them altarpieces. how macabe!
  12. katy, 4 years ago
    ok, Late 1870's Victorian piece. They had a candle thru urn to (keep candle burning) w/pix of child lost..... Milk glass not painted. They had techniques of melting glass for colors, etc. to blend .... i would say that it cost a lot of $ back then to have one made. Maybe in Tombstone, AZ, they had a glass maker of urns. Who knows. Check it out.
  13. ozmarty ozmarty, 4 years ago
    if the glass colour is not painted but solid agate take a look at early Reidel Glass Al has some on his site
    http://sites.google.com/site/loetzandglass/czech-jugendstil--other-makers
    Have aVery Happy Xmas
  14. lisaann, 4 years ago
    just found out there was an older baby girl that died..nobody knows how or why she died and she was never named..didnt know that till now.. hmmm...
  15. lisaann, 4 years ago
    still on the search for what these are.... still not finding anything of what these are.. still open for more ideas... seems every day gets more and more intriging..the 2nd one has no picture..leaning still on the urn possibility..espeacially after finding out about the baby that died..
  16. livetoride livetoride, 4 years ago
    This is just an idea, but from the pictures, the opening in the top, could this possibly be a lamp but the insides are missing?
  17. lisaann, 4 years ago
    nope.. the opening is not very deep and does not go all the way through...but thanks

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