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Posted 9 months ago
Alfredo
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Long before I knew what my Silberband ribbon bowl was (pic. 1), I was aware of the Loetz Hoffstätter design 351-Phan 3777, that bore a striking similarity to its shape (pic. 2). The actual vase appears in Loetz books, since it was made for the Paris 1900 Exhibition.
I was also conscious that mine appeared in other sizes and other decors, all from the Silberband family, including a version in cobalt blue. As usual, they are marketed as Loetz. It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for market misattributions to be corrected.
Now, however, Stephania Zelenko, the Passau Museum curator, has uncovered a similar design in a Heckert book (pic. 3), which raises all kinds of interesting questions.
Given the level of manufacturing incest among Czech glass companies during this period, it would be foolish to speak of plagiarism or piracy. All I can say is that, except for the lip, to my eyes my bowl looks more like the Loetz design than the Heckert's at least in the elongation of the body. Judge for yourself.
ADDENDUM: I found the Loetz 351 (now pic. 4). PMC IV:30, No lips, no dimples.
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Love this beauty and stunning:)
I can already hear the howls from glass pundits . . . .
Your so right Alfredo:) and rightfully so as well . :) p.s. this is truly amazing piece of art:)
Chances are they both saw the same shape in the British museum. The base on the Loetz drawing looks a lot smaller than the Heckert drawing -for my eye the examples match the Heckert closer. Fascinating. I notice a lot of the Heckert designs come with fancy or plain tops. I guess it was easy to modify the tops after the main shaping. I think we are going to be desperately trying to work out the implications of this Heckert book for some time. Fun!
OK. What British Museum? Pottery or glass? Yesterday we saw a Dresser design in pottery at the Met that Loetz modified--the quite common twisted vases (I have 5 of them) that look like a woman's squirt. In fact, I bought my very first because it looked like the squirt of a woman in my Bisquit-Lefevre Mucha poster.
Im still laughing at 'manufacturing incest' :) Good way to describe it LOL
Check it out: I found the Loetz vase in the PMC and posted it. I like the shape on mine better.
I have seen vases that might be considered to look like a woman's "squirt", but the ones you speak of look like a skirt. I think that's what you meant there Al. :)
Oh God. I've been dealing with research on edible squirts as late as yesterday morning!
Whew, skirts.. I was trying to wrap my head around that.. LOL. I was all, what's he going on about womens squirts for?
That would be more like a Rorschach test, no? I love a bit of humor over my first cup of coffee. Thanks Alfredo!
The 'Propeller' vase for Ault? I was too late for me here in Oz!
This is great stuff! Al; does this mean my "blue striped" vase is also Heckert? It is the same one shown on your site (or the other Kralik site, I'm not sure which); and I posted it earlier with the red cardiac vase and the sea urchin (all as "Kralik"). It is similar to the silberband decor. (:No wonder people just call it all "Loetz" and don't bother with the details; what, with all the incest going on who can tell?:)