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Posted 2 years ago

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Hems303
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For fellow CW member "blunderbuss2" a man for whom, vases just will not cut the mustard!

This is my live and in regular use; 1944 Lee Enfield No.4 T. Sniper Rifle. Made at Long Branch (Canadian Arms Plant) and shipped to England for the war effort. Even though it arrived very late in the theatre of war it had 6 confirmed "kills"....deer for the pot of the sniper's platoon....food was very scarce in Germany at the end of the war even for the liberators.

I obtained it from an antique gun dealer who had been a Royal Marine during WW2. It is fitted with a No.32 Mk2 telescopic sight and is the usual .303 Br. calibre. I reload my own ammunition.

The second photo is with the scope demounted (two quick thumb screws!). Bare Iron Sights!

The third photo is a bit of pertinent "gallows" humour and general instructions posted up at one of our ranges"

The black & white picture is a stock photo of a Lee Enfield No.4 T. in wartime sniper service. (note the screwed on cheek-piece on the butt)

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  1. blunderbuss2 blunderbuss2, 2 years ago
    I've had the old Enfield before and a bit can be said for the accuracy & performance, but the weight is really excessive. Sights leave something to be desired also. For getting attention, the ole MK II Sten is hard to beat but of course not at any range. I've had Schmeissers, Bergmans, grease guns, Berettas, MAC 10's & can't remember what else, but the ole MKII never stops. Don't trust the M16 with my life but never had an AK. I've free-lanced for 39 yrs and never know what comes your way. For smg, I like around 600 rpm & think the new 1K-1.2K a waste of ammo & weight you have to carry. (A grenade will do the same job at that close of a range)
    I'm retired and just mostly shoot blk. powder as I don't have to be hassled unless shooting with the gendarmes etc..
    fauxpasunltd@gmail.com
  2. Hems303 Hems303, 2 years ago
    Hi blunderbuss2: My (and all "T") sniper variants are "collimated" by Holland & Holland and matched with (at the time) very good No.32 telescopic sight. Mine can shoot "the hind leg off gnat" at 600 yds. I gives a 1 to 2 inch "L" shapes group of 5 at 100 yds....not bad for a vintage wartime rifle (Mind you; the Long Branch rifle had a five "Lands" barrel not the poor British version with only two!)

    I have also a wartime Sten and a Bren, I may post these when I get the chance/inclination.

    (I have been looking on the Net; at the beautiful St. Martins....that's one of the best things about CW, in that one is triggered into looking up faraway exotic places/people/traditions/perspectives/items etc etc.)..... Question: Which part do you live on; Dutch or French....the map names look very beguiling and evocative!!

    :)
  3. blunderbuss2 blunderbuss2, 2 years ago
    sent a reply but appears it wasn't on this site now. H&H 5 lands & groves makes a real diff. in accuracy. Had a Springfield 03 sniper with 4 lands & groves & it was a tack-driver. With the 110 gr bullets I reloaded, it was truly destructive.
    I live now about 1/4 k from the Fr. frontier & work at the aerodrome in Grand Case. Lived in Grd. Case for 13 yrs & can understand how germany so easily. Just don't understand why the wanted to stay so long?
    I've had a rough day, will talk later. I'm retired from endangering the world & just play with flying machines but have a Fr. business license.
  4. blunderbuss2 blunderbuss2, 2 years ago
    In 2nd paragraph, insert after "germany" (took France). Sorry, I'm asleep at the wheel right now! Really rough day.
  5. Hems303 Hems303, 2 years ago
    Stand easy blunderbuss2, speak later! :)
  6. Budek Budek, 2 years ago
    Hello Hems,
    Thanks for the link to your art work, very impressive.
    Wonderful variety of subjects and mediums, beautiful rendering and excellent use of color. It's very kind of you to share them.
    I'll be checking in from time to time, in case you list any new pieces.
    Bestest Regards,
    Tony.
  7. Hems303 Hems303, 2 years ago
    No worries Budek and thanks for the very kind comments. Like I say others have asked but I tried to post some on CW...they were aske "to leave"...LOL. Hunter suggested that I set up a Flickr photostream...so there you are!

    Regarding the artwork; if you do it for commissioners you have to cover a very broad spectrum of "styles" and mediums. The "Badgers" were completed by me, for me, so are more my own natural "style". I'll have to photo or scan some of my "personal" paintings when I get chance/inclination! Thanks again!
  8. Hems303 Hems303, 2 years ago
    Sorry, how rude! So everyone knows what we are talking about:

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/hems303/
  9. zguy2112 zguy2112, 2 years ago
    Great rifle and an important part of history! Nice find!
  10. toracat toracat, 2 years ago
    Cool I was Army 67-69 Vietnam!
  11. Hems303 Hems303, 2 years ago
    Respect to you toracat: US were using M16 then? Brit Army was using the SLR in 67-69 having replaced 99% of the Lee Enfield No.4's by then. Although it was only two years ago that the last 300 No.4 (T) sniper rifles (just like mine) were destroyed at Army Base Ordnance Depot (Donnington, Shropshire, UK) . The next part will break everyones heart!..........the last 300 No.32 Mk3 telescopic sights (circa 1945-46 and selling on eBay for up to £1,500 or $2,400) were carefully and reverently removed from these last 300 sniper rifles..........................................................and SMASHED with sedgehammers to "prevent falling into the wrong hands". We rescued a few of the lens groups that survived the massacre! Their sale would have brought £450,000 or $720,350 to our cash strapped government! (even if it did flood the market. I recently sold on eBay a No.32 Mk1 for £1,100)....I've said it before....it's a MAD, MAD WORLD! :(
  12. blunderbuss2 blunderbuss2, 2 years ago
    Governments do that shit without a thought to it.
    Now remember this. When the U.K.was desperate for weapons at the beginning of (that) war, appeals were sent out. American citizens donated/loaned thousands of guns to help. When the crisis was over, what happened to them? Your government chose to destroy them rather than return them to their rightful owners. That was a loss of a lot more than the scopes probably then & certainly many times over now.
    Of course the way the U.S. throws away money has now made them the biggest counterfeiting ring in the world. Of course 48% of their taxes are allotted to their Department of "Offense". My personal credit rating is much higher than their national credit rating!
    Politicians can only be rightfully considered as children who hold absolutely no responsibility for their stupid actions.
  13. blunderbuss2 blunderbuss2, 2 years ago
    Still like the blud'clot 303! You say that you reload. What kind of fodder are you pumping out of that relic? I've generally found that a mid to light weight bullet weight gives the best accuracy.
    Did the .303 useBoxer or Berdan primer?
  14. Hems303 Hems303, 2 years ago
    High blunderbluss2: Ya sayin' I'm still like the b*!@!!:0#? ....or do I Still like? (Answer either way is: "Your opinion!"... or secondly..."No!") ;)
    The ammunition originally used was the Berdan Primer cased load (military). My brother Keith still reloads and fires Berdan, he has about 5000 Berdan Primers left..then he's stuck! ....I have gone for more readily available Boxer Primers and suitable Winchester brass.

    I am firing 180 grain FMJ boat tail spitzers (same as in military use) with 45 grain load behind them (good out to 1200 yds.) I found the commercial lighter bullet heads went every which where...no good at all, at any distance.

    It might be a relic but it is pristine and little or no wear to the barrel....evidence of little use in war & peace (until I had it).

    Speak soon blunderbuss2
  15. blunderbuss2 blunderbuss2, 2 years ago
    Was referring to the rifle. Lived in Jamaica for 15 yrs and patois doesn't seem to wear-off so don't take offense or take me too seriously. I can "clot" with the best of them.
    Of course the lighter bullet isn't good for longer range or is windy conditions.
    How does yo bro get the blud'clot berdans out, with water? That's how we used to do it but a bit of trouble.
  16. Hems303 Hems303, 2 years ago
    Ahhhhh..... now I see the 303 after the "Jamrock expletive"...makes sense!

    Keith machined a thick stainless steel tube with a hole to take the .303 brass case, you fill the tube with water, put a solid steel plunger rod into the water filled cylinder and hit it with an engineers hammer, the hydraulic pressure shoots the Berdan primer out the back end. You get soaking wet but you can deprime 100 cases an hour if you don't stop for a drink!
  17. Hems303 Hems303, 2 years ago
    Yo blunderbuss2, you'd probably get on with my Bro. Keith, he's into guns'n'things like you and me, BUT he's probably more up your street when it comes to work..... he works for Curtiss Wright a name you'll recognise in your profession!!!
  18. blunderbuss2 blunderbuss2, 2 years ago
    Moi without a beer for an hour. I have a reputation to protect so figure 1 1/2 hr. After that war when there was so much ammo with Berdans, we got tired of the mess & used 2 drifts to flatten the anvil, drill a tiny hole in the pocket & use boxers. As I remember, it worked but that was ages ago.
    At age 9, I added a .58 cal musket & started with blk. pdr. most regularly. I just loved the old smoke poles & still do. The .22 was great for accuracy but the other added challenge & more fun. Always had a weakness for 9 m/m though & smg's. On the 8th day, God created 9 m/m, - and it was good!
    Is Curtiss still making radials or rotary engs.. LOL. What is his specialty with them? Have they perfected timing the mg to the prop. yet? LOL.
  19. Hems303 Hems303, 2 years ago
    LMAO blunderbuss2 ....... He is an aerospace engineer specialising in R&D and initially production of Flight Recorders but then went on to do leading edge work on ? pitots ? (something fitted to the front of jet fighters I think). Now he is doing something very black regarding Attack Helo's for Afgan. Think he has not much to do with getting machine gun bullets through props... (not much call for it nowadays.....mind you there ARE helo's and they've got props of sorts, and I have heard of squadies putting rounds through them!). I will try to post my Sten and Bren for you to peruse...but...

    Question for you as a long standing member: Do CW take kindly to a preponderance of weaponry being posted by the members? (I've already had one post bounced!)
  20. blunderbuss2 blunderbuss2, 2 years ago
    I'm not an oldie at CW. Got word of the site when I came down with some bug & then was grounded while my truck was down for body-work & paint. I'm sure many wish I hadn't found the site but have really enjoyed seeing the items & learning from those that know so much more that me. Now I'm having trouble getting away from it & looking for a support group.
    De pitot is dat stik looking tang that stics out into de wind & air pressure registers as your air-speed. Been around almost as long as the flying machine.
    I don't fly very much because I promised my mother I would never fly in anything I worked on & she was a wise woman.
  21. Hems303 Hems303, 2 years ago
    Sorry blunderbuss2...I just assumed you were a CW vet!

    A link for anyone interested in more WW2 items/weapons etc:

    http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/68261-my-ww2-collection-sten-mk-ii?in=user
  22. blunderbuss2 blunderbuss2, 2 years ago
    Hems, you have been here longer looking at bloody vases longer than me!
    WWII weapons usually do the job just as well as modern. In ways, they are like cars. The more nick-nacks you add on are just that much more that can go wrong. Can you get anything fixed on your car without a computer?
    One of the great weapons I've worked with had a fatal flaw that I never hear mentioned. You could not add rds to a Garand. You are down to 2 rds when you need more & have to fire those 2 before you can STOP & put in the next 8 rd clip. Lot of soldiers lost their lives on that & i never hear it mentioned.
  23. Hems303 Hems303, 2 years ago
    Hmmmmmmmmmmm.......good point! You don't hear about that for sure. Kerrrr...chingggg! (sorry.. my impression of a Garand clip ejecting..lol)
  24. Hems303 Hems303, 2 years ago
    You can ALWAYS feed the Lee Enfield more fodder just whenever you feel like it!
  25. blunderbuss2 blunderbuss2, 2 years ago
    I have used the Garand a lot & can't understand why that fault is NEVER mentioned. That's why they put a bottom feed mag. on the M14(magnificent weapon of its day). A mystery of history to me.
  26. blunderbuss2 blunderbuss2, 2 years ago
    Hey, I'm not thru with your r'as yet! I'm going to top your find yet!
  27. blunderbuss2 blunderbuss2, 2 years ago
    I just posted one that has a message for you. Antique pistol or something like that.
  28. Hems303 Hems303, 2 years ago
    Blunderbuss2's antique pistol (Asa Waters) post he refers to in comment .30 ...I can thoroughly recommend viewing it..heres the CW Link:
    http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/69253-oldold-pistol?in=collection-877
  29. Hems303 Hems303, 2 years ago
    All my thanks goes to NicksCrustyStuff, walksoftly, kerry10456, scandinavian_pieces, inky, mrmajestic1, Signaholic, Hedgewalker, toracat, zguy2112, miKKoChristmas11, Dr_Rambow, petey, toolate2, officialfuel, BELLIN68, PhilDavidAlexanderMorris, AR8Jason, blunderbuss2 , mustangtony and vetraio50!

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  30. Hems303 Hems303, 2 years ago
    Hotshot?...how'd you know Sean? I might be a dreadful shot LOL ;)
  31. Hems303 Hems303, 2 years ago
    MattyG; Thanks for the "love it", much appreciated.
  32. valentino97 valentino97, 2 years ago
    I gave it a like because...I'm a afraid of weapons - but you have a love of this history and I respect your interest.
  33. Hems303 Hems303, 10 months ago
    Hi valentino97
    Thanks for the like, sorry for the delay in posting a reply, I rarely get the chance to "pass by" here nowadays! Never be afraid of the weapons, they are merely objects, some with deep history and interest, it is some of the users you have to be afraid of! Personally; I am a total believer of the commandment "thou shall not kill" but can still cherish the object and honour those who have made the ultimate sacrifice to ensure the way of life we can all freely lead today.

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