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Posted 2 years ago

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Alfredo
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THIS IS AN UGLY TALE, BUT IT HAS HAPPENED TO ALL OF US WHO BUY FROM PHOTOGRAPHS ON INTERNET:

1. THE VASE AS OFFERED. NOTICE THAT THE PHOTOGRAPH IS TAKEN AGAINST A CLOTH BACKDROP. THE DEALER'S DESCRIPTION:

This is a Loetz Spiraloptisch iridescent vase. Go to Loetz.com and click 1905. There a picture of it there. The embossed design really highlights the iridescent finish. The bottom has been ground smooth. It stands 3 3/4" high and is 2 1/2" in diameter. There is no damage to the piece. The iridescent finish on the inside of the vase has a separation line. This piece has a lot of bling for its size.

SO, I HIT THE BIN BUTTON.

2. THE BOX ARRIVED BADLY BANGED ON ONE SIDE. WEN I UNWRAPPED, I WAS QUITE SURPRISED. THE VASE CAME IN A SINGLE LAYER OF BUBBLE GLASS, WITH A HANDFUL OF PACKING POPCORN, IN THE CONDITION SHOWN IN THE SECOND PICTURE. THE LINE WENT AROUND THE VASE, AFFECTING 75% OF ITS SURFACE. I KNEW I HAD BEEN SWINDLED. IT WAS CLEAR WHY IT HAD BEEN CARELESSLY PACKED. IT WAS CLEAR THE ORIGINAL DESCRIPTION WAS FRAUDULENT, SINCE THERE WAS NO PICTURE OF THE "SEPARATION LINE".

SO, I WROTE THE SELLER, SUGGESTING A PARTIAL REFUND AND NOTIFYING HIM OF THE DAMAGE. AND HERE IS IS HIS CYNICAL RESPONSE:

Please return the item if you are not satisfied. I will refund the full amount. The line you see is a manufacturing irregular-ity, a separation of the glaze on the inside of the piece and is not on the outside. The fact Loetz did not destroy the piece suggests it is within the acceptable range of irregularities. That being said, I will immediately refund the transaction upon receipt.
- john97918

TWO THINGS WORTH POINTING OUT: HE KNEW ABOUT THE DEFECT, AND HE DID NOT DISCLOSE IT--- HENCE THE CLOTH BACKDROP. SECOND, HE WOULD REFUND ONLY AFTER HE HAD RECEIVED IT. I WOULD NOT SEND THE VASE BACK. HE WOULD TRY TO HAWK AGAIN. I CAN LIVE WITH DAMAGED PIECES. INSTEAD, I GAVE HIM AN F- FOR FULL FRAUD. HE, OF COURSE, DOES NOT KNOW MY CONNECTION TO LOETZ.COM. NOW I'LL LET HIM KNOW . . .

MORAL OF THE STORY: BEST BUY IRIDESCENT GLASS THAT IS PHOTOGRAPHED WITH LIGHT SHINING THROUGH. IRIDESCENT SURFACES MASK IMPERFECTIONS.

PHOTOS 3.4. THE VASE NOW PHOTOGRAPHED BY ME, AND NEXT TO MY OTHER SPIRALOPTISH.

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  1. Londonloetzlearner Londonloetzlearner, 2 years ago
    Seems wrong to "love" such a story, but ...
  2. Alfredo Alfredo, 2 years ago
    It has a happy ending. The little vase sits right in front of me.
  3. AmberRose AmberRose, 2 years ago
    One of my favorite designs!
  4. Londonloetzlearner Londonloetzlearner, 2 years ago
    Good to know!
  5. dlfd911 dlfd911, 2 years ago
    I could live with it also, but I have a couple of pieces with stories like this, and I always feel sick when I look at them. I hope you can grow to love it. A worker at the Loetz factory put a part of himself into it, and it lives on in his memory, though he is long gone.
  6. Alfredo Alfredo, 2 years ago
    I do not. I rescue pieces like this one from unscrupulous dealers. I run a home for abused glass!
  7. dlfd911 dlfd911, 2 years ago
    And as you have seen Alfredo, so do I, or more to the point, a hospital for sick glass. You should get your patient in the mail today, by the way.
  8. czechman czechman, 2 years ago
    Alfredo, Were you at all suspicious before purchasing it? like, why would someone photograph against Burlap?.. im just curious.. makes me wonder if even i would have been suspicious of this.. this guy did know exactly what he was doing.. i love to gamble... but not on expensive glass like Loetz!.. so glad it worked out in your favor
  9. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 2 years ago
    Separation line would have made me suspicious. that's like calling a flat chip an oyster or a fluffle or calling a half an inch chip a fleabite. If I see a weird term like "separation line" I am all over their butt for explanations before buying. I want pictures of the damage and descriptions of what they're seeing. a line of separation sounds like a politically uncorrect way of saying a crack.
  10. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 2 years ago
    one time I bought a vase that had the flat chip described as an oyster. I assumed it was decoration around the rim.. I felt slapped when I saw it was a chip shaped like an oyster... it was after that experience that I became very cautious over weirdnesses in descriptions.
  11. Alfredo Alfredo, 2 years ago
    Gary, no, I was not at all suspicious. Dave, the mended patient will soothe my wound. As for the SOB who sold me the SOP, now he knows. A con man. Exposed.
  12. ABQCathy ABQCathy, 2 years ago
    I've bought over 800 pieces of glass off the Internet for my project, and around 15% percent (sometimes as high as 30% in any given month) have had damage that was cleverly not pictured or described in the listing. It's a gamble, but often, there is no other alternative to getting a needed piece. Sadly, these con men and women simply get another account under a relative's or friend's name whenever they are exposed, so there is no lasting solution to the problem.
  13. dasullywon dasullywon, 2 years ago
    Morality is its' own reward, just as dishonesty inevitably is its' own punishment. I have received more than a couple of damaged items that were "questionable" but I usually keep them, just as you do, Alfredo. I'm not sure I have a "home" for abused glass, but certainly a clinic. What can we do? Give them Love! :)

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