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Bohemian Art Glass758 of 1686new or old ingrid second set of picsBottoms of Unmatched Set
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Posted 8 months ago

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Here is my ingrid vase, the mark is very faint it's a round made in czechoslovakia mark. there is a spot where it looks like there might be a butterfly in the moldbut it's a little muddy. these pics weren't what I was hoping for. they turned out a bit dark.

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  1. dasullywon dasullywon, 8 months ago
    The top looks like my vintage one, and all the later ones I have seen have the "stretched neck" look. I'd say your's was made soon after Schlevogt went out of business, and probably soon after WWII (or earlier). If you hold it up to the light can you see light passing through on the inside? The vintage one of mine is thinner and lighter than the DESNA. Can you weight it? There is a big difference in weight, and the vintage one is under 300g.
  2. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 8 months ago
    345 grams and you can see light pass thru on the decoration on the outside of the vase but not the inside. like the light passes thru the women but not the walls of the vase.
  3. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 8 months ago
    and it's just a hair under five inches tall and about three inches wide at the widest
  4. dasullywon dasullywon, 8 months ago
    So it's inbetween in weight. The light does only show through the figures on mine, especially around the faces. I think yours is a middle vintage, as I said originally. This was a good original mold I'm guessing, and a different manufacturer accounts for the difference in weight. So since yours is not marked "Ingrid" we can guess it was made by the NEXT maker, who started making them about 1940 if memory serves.

    Oh, and the Desna is completely opaque! No light at all.
  5. Manikin Manikin, 8 months ago
    Beautiful ! and I love the name :-) I love love this !
  6. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 8 months ago
    I have never seen this Article from Deborah Truitt before. it's interesting. I do think this has a butterfly in the decoration. it's hard to tell for sure if it's a butterfly but I am pretty sure it is.
  7. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 8 months ago
    http://www.antiqueweek.com/ArchiveArticle.asp?newsid=879
  8. dasullywon dasullywon, 8 months ago
    Ridel was the company I was thinking of, and I read in another article that the changeover from Schlevogt to Ridel was @ 1940, which is sort of implied in the article (but not quite). I would see if that round mark is a Ridel mark.
  9. dasullywon dasullywon, 8 months ago
    Sorry, it's spelled Riedel.
  10. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 8 months ago
    "At times, it can be difficult to distinguish between items made by the Hoffmann and Schlevogt firms. They both used the same designers and had their glass pressed at the Riedel factory; Henry Schlevogt had started to develop some of his ideas while he worked at the Hoffmann firm; Schlevogt took ownership of some of the molds he had worked on at the Hoffmann firm. While Hoffmann is known for his butterfly mark, Schlevogt included items with the Hoffmann butterfly mark in his catalogs."

    So regardless of if it was from the Hoffmann era or the schlevogt era it was made at Reidel. :)
  11. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 8 months ago
    (at least that's what I took away from it, who knows if I am right in my assumption or not :) )
  12. dasullywon dasullywon, 8 months ago
    So Riedel pressed the glass for Schlevogt also; that's interesting. And the key year looks like 1948, when the Soviets took over. Maybe yours' is from before 1948?
  13. Stillwater Stillwater, 2 months ago
    Boy... Does anyone else find malachite glass "sexy?"
  14. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 2 months ago
    I find it a little tacky myself but I am not male. I think deco sexy is what they were going for.
  15. Stillwater Stillwater, 2 months ago
    Not the motif, the malachite glass itself! The color, the lustre, the contrast, it just always looks like some kind of sacred, mythical material. You just want to feel it and taste it haha!

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