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Stunna8 of 15Silver Plated 3 legged Globe Butterdish*DURAND ROSE BOWL  c. 1925
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Posted 2 years ago


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Like I said before, I do not normally collect watches other than American made, but a few have infiltrated my collection.
It is an English Fusee with out makers mark on dial or movement.
The movement is marked with the number 9523 which is also marked on the case.
The movement is 38.54 mm
the dial is 45.12 mm
The case has the English silver lion mark and the "g" date mark that I think is for 1862. The other one I haven't been able to locate.
Any information (or correction of my assumptions) are greatly appreciated.
Thanks for looking,


  1. kerry10456 kerry10456, 2 years ago
    Dave, what I know about "Fusee" watches would not float a cherrio. But I like the looks of it. Is it coin silver case?
  2. pw-collector pw-collector, 2 years ago
    Thanks Kerry for the appreciation.
    I think the case and dial are coin silver.
  3. pw-collector pw-collector, 2 years ago
    Thanks blunderbuss2 for the appreciation.
  4. thisoldwatch thisoldwatch, 2 years ago
    The movement is un-signed. Your case is silver. It has the English sterling "Lion". The lion head has no crown,which he lost in 1822. The year mark is a lower case "g" in shield for 1862.
    Super dial.
    This Old Watch
  5. pw-collector pw-collector, 2 years ago
    Thanks Jim for the great information. Is it normal for English watches to have the movement & case numbered the same?
  6. thisoldwatch thisoldwatch, 2 years ago
    I see this a lot, especially with hi-end Swiss and English watches. I can see a "PW" in your picture and with a little more research we can find who made the case.
  7. pw-collector pw-collector, 2 years ago
    Thanks Jim, that would be great
    I just thought it was a private label for me: PW Collector.
  8. pw-collector pw-collector, 2 years ago
    Thanks musikchoo for the appreciation.
  9. pw-collector pw-collector, 2 years ago
    Thanks gearpunk for the appreciation.
  10. pw-collector pw-collector, 2 years ago
    Thanks Kevin for the appreciation.
    I have another English fusee, sterling silver case & silver dial but is much smaller than this one. The dial on this one is 45.12 mm & movement is 38.54 mm.
    The smaller one, the dial is 39.22 mm & movement is 33.67 mm.
    I will post the smaller one also.
  11. rniederman rniederman, 2 years ago
    I'm curious ... have you opened the movement to see the fusee-and-chain transmission?

    All ... Fusee refers to a cone shaped barrel with a spiral groove for the chain. The barrel looks like a snail; hence fusee. The design is meant to equalize the torque fluctuations as a mainspring unwinds to provide constant torque throughout the power reserve. When the mainspring is fully wound, the balance wheel has the greatest 'amplitude' and finely designed chain pulls on the smallest radius of the fusee. As the mainspring unwinds, the balance wheel amplitude declines and at the same time chain moves to the larger radius of the fusee where it has more leverage - this is all based on the principle of levers discovered by Archimedes.

    It is an interesting design and appears in contemporary watches such a A. Lange's "Pour le Merite."

    Aside from pre-1900 American wood cameras, I have a passing interest in watches and have collected several manufacturer's catalogs with explanations of various mechanics. I'm not a movement expert by any means, but this is stuff is fascinating.
  12. pw-collector pw-collector, 2 years ago
    I can take some photos between the plates of both watches. Maybe you can see what you are asking about. I will post them now.
  13. pw-collector pw-collector, 2 years ago
    Thanks musikchoo for the appreciation.
  14. pw-collector pw-collector, 1 year ago
    Thanks crabbykins for the appreciation.
  15. pw-collector pw-collector, 5 months ago
    Thanks aghcollect for the appreciation.

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