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Posted 2 years ago

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famatta127
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This blue Loetz Medici stands 4 1/4" tall by 5" wide. The real standout feature isn't the glass this time..its the Vienna Secession Movement silver overlay. I was in a small shop in Vienna, searching out antiques in a city notorious for its high prices when I spotted this on the shop owners desk among piles of papers. When I asked about the piece, he told me he had just placed the vase on eBay an hour earlier. We negotiated a very reasonable price and I took the vase home.

Turns out it would be my only aquisition from my stay in Vienna. Now this shop was mere feet away from some famous auction houses and Loetz retailers, who would have been asking double or triple the price. As the old saying goes, "sometimes its better to be lucky than good".

from Volkmar Schorcht, a Facebook friend:
The overlay was made by Max Schwarz, Vienna. First number represents the Loetz production number (3/408 - made in 1903). Second number is the decor number by Max Schwarz = M. 738. Check with the Passau catalogue No. IV.153.

My copy of the most recent book by Lenicova which documents numerous production numbers/drawings is enroute from Vienna. I can only assume its pictured there.

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  1. dasullywon dasullywon, 2 years ago
    Nice "token" from Vienna; I'm sure you want to go back now. Great shape! It complements the overlay and decor nicely. Great find? Did you negotiate in German? "Vie fiel Deuchmark bitte? Nein! Zu hoch!" I can't spell in German either.
  2. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 2 years ago
    Gorgeous.. that marking on the bottom is very curious. it looks very like something you'd expect to see from Harrach or Reidel.
  3. LoetzBuddies LoetzBuddies, 2 years ago
    Yes Mr.T please explain the marks on the bottom. I thought you only found this type of marking on DEK decors.
  4. famatta127 famatta127, 2 years ago
    No clue on the marks. Several years ago I had a piece with similar markings. I suspect they are a retailers inventory number but I have no proof of that. The piece looks like it would have been made for Bakalowitz and Sons but I cannot find evidence to support this other than the style of overlay matching previous models.
  5. cogito cogito, 2 years ago
    I believe that this overlay piece is related by technique and style to the overlay piece on Ophir's website. In both cases, and in other examples I have seen, there is a finely done silver rim. Also, these type of overlay pieces are differentiated from the geometric overlay Phanomen already in Mr. T and my collection. Those generally have additional chasing design in the overlay to connote a sense of depth; whereas, the above overlay Phanomen type never has chasing from the examples I have seen. As with Mr. T, I suspect these overlay type hail from a specific retailer and the overlay work was probably Austrian, not British or American.
  6. cogito cogito, 2 years ago
    Here's the related piece at Ophir:

    http://www.ophirgallery.com/glass/loetz/phnomen-gre-silver-overlay-vase/

    And, don't even bother to ask, it's insanely overpriced.
  7. cogito cogito, 2 years ago
    I wonder if the "M" underneath references Medeu? Is this one of the Medeu shapes? What about the Ophir example above...Medeu shape?
  8. vetraio50 vetraio50, 2 years ago
    Or is that letter an "n"?

    The silver overlay is so beautiful!
    The vertical lines around the waist frame the colours cleverly.
    Simply stunning Jugend Style!
  9. AmberRose AmberRose, 2 years ago
    Good golly this is pretty. You have wonderful finds!
  10. jericho jericho, 2 years ago
    think of me in your will
  11. bohemianglassandmore bohemianglassandmore, 2 years ago
    In German script, it would be a letter n. Such intense color!
  12. Hunter Hunter, 2 years ago
    gorgeous colors and so striking in contrast with the overlay. thanks for posting!
  13. famatta127 famatta127, 2 years ago
    from Volkmar Schorcht, a Facebook friend:
    The overlay was made by Max Schwarz, Vienna. First number represents the Loetz production number (3/408 - made in 1903). Second number is the decor number by Max Schwarz = M. 738. Check with the Passau catalogue No. IV.153.

    My copy of the most recent book by Lenicova which documents numerous production numbers/drawings is enroute from Vienna. I can only assume its pictured there.
  14. artislove artislove, 2 years ago
    wow superpiece!!!!!

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