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Bohemian Art Glass2127 of 2936Loetz Tango Enamel - #3 Hoschbohemian uranium silver overlay vase
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Posted 2 years ago

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Justanovice
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When I tried to find out a little about these vases I looked at Twentieth Century Glass and found very similar vases attributed to Ludwig Moser. I therefore thought that was correct. I then (first comment ever on CW) told Scottvez to check out Ludwig Moser as he had a similar trophy shape vase to be identified. I then read the responses to his post which said, more likely to be Frank Welz! So here are mine any ideas?! They both have a decoration on the front and are they known as 'ox blood' in colour? Many thanks if you can help:-)

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  1. scottvez scottvez, 2 years ago
    BEAUTIFUL-- I like the subtle enamel work on them!

    scott
  2. czechman czechman, 2 years ago
    very beautiful indeed!!
  3. czechman czechman, 2 years ago
    Franz Welz
  4. czechman czechman, 2 years ago
    http://www.google.com/search?q=franz+welz+glass&hl=en&prmd=imvnso&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=hgliUOnRJJGi8ASVq4HwBw&sqi=2&ved=0CDYQsAQ&biw=1440&bih=754
  5. Justanovice Justanovice, 2 years ago
    Thank you for the Love it - BELLIN68, scottvez, Scandinavian_pieces and czechman for the link and the spelling too!
  6. inky inky, 2 years ago
    FANTASTIC!!!!!...:-)
  7. Justanovice Justanovice, 2 years ago
    Thank you inky!!
  8. Justanovice Justanovice, 2 years ago
    Thank you ozmarty and LeahGoodwin for the Love it!:)
  9. Justanovice Justanovice, 2 years ago
    Thank you Obscurities, it was your comment to scotvez that sorted me out!! So glad I found this site!!
  10. bethelam bethelam, 2 years ago
    I have a similar vase I'm trying to I.d. You thanked obscurities for helping you sort it out but I can't find their comment. I'd appreciate a little direction.
  11. scottvez scottvez, 2 years ago
    Link to obscurities comments on my trophy vases:

    http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/64047-trophy-style-vases

    scott
  12. Justanovice Justanovice, 2 years ago
    scottvez has left you a link so you can i.d. your trophy vase!
  13. jericho jericho, 2 years ago
    Trophy vases are pre-1918 (more like 1900). They may have been made by any number of Bohemian companies but Welz is the most likely because a few of the decors crossed over into new shapes. The enameling may have been done by Moser or another Moser type refinery- I have a similar set of six with the exact same shape, two distinct kinds of enameling and one without any enameling at all. Great set!
  14. Justanovice Justanovice, 2 years ago
    Jericho! Thank you so much for your information about my Welz trophy vases!
    I suppose the Moser type refinery is where the Twentieth Century Glass get there attribution from. Big learning curve for so many glass makers that I think I will always be Justanovice!! Thanks again!
  15. Justanovice Justanovice, 2 years ago
    Thank you Deanteaks for the Love!
  16. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 2 years ago
    the quality of moser enamelling is top notch.. This wouldn't be in the same league. I personally doubt that moser was responsible for any of the pieces in this shape. YMMV. The Yellow variegated that Moser and Harrach did were different from most of the variegated you see on the market.
  17. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 2 years ago
    I am going to stay out of the welz Ruckl debate other than to say I'd believe either of those makers for this.
  18. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 2 years ago
    or both
  19. Justanovice Justanovice, 2 years ago
    I have posted picture of the top view of one of these vases if that is helpful in this debate! Thank you all for these very interesting comments - lot of learning to do!!
  20. epson233 epson233, 2 years ago
    love the vases -- and wanted to say thanks to all that commented and educated the rest of us that have the passion for glass -- was amazed with leahgoodwin -- you should be honored -- usually just does the "loves" -- certainly blew me out of the water with all her knowledge
  21. Justanovice Justanovice, 2 years ago
    I know 'amazing' are they not? I love it that the CW crew give their knowledge and expertise so willingly!! Thank you all so much from me also!!
  22. epson233 epson233, 2 years ago
    placed you on my follow list -- encase you start anymore forest fires -- i want to be there -- tootles -- enjoy your weekend
  23. Justanovice Justanovice, 2 years ago
    Thank you epson233 - did not mean to start any forest fires LOL!!! Will chase up that link you have left for my lovely 'Boy and Fish' as soon as my visitors look after themselves and give me 5 minutes to do my own thing!!
  24. Justanovice Justanovice, 2 years ago
    Obscurities, I will check that out for you in natural light and get back to you tomorrow as it is winter's dark 'early' evening here!
  25. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 2 years ago
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSb7mlz7Hag

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