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filmnet
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Brass spoon from Thailand, i lived there are a child brought home
B.M. Chamberlain & Son Coin silver 5"
Sterling with unidentified hallmark 5"
Same as above straight side spoon 4"
Last one A.S.C.O. 1897? Pat Approved this might be stainless not sterling very nice unique hallmark 4"
very unique, anyone know what they are called?
Pusher hallmark

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  1. miKKoChristmas11 miKKoChristmas11, 2 years ago
    Very nice! Don't know anything about the brass one on far Right. But proceeding down from this brass spoon:

    Beautiful Sugar Shell serving spoon with engraving! Coin silver, you said, the BMC jeweler! Wonderful. Engraving might be done all by hand - can't see well enough. I'd definitely work on this one more if I were you.

    Beaded large serving spoon or ladle - the beaded edge is common, but I am used to seeing this with an English tip.

    Another ladle - quite distinctive bowl!! Don't recognize the pattern offhand. Perhaps not made by one of the major lines?, though this looks like a very nice piece of silver! I'd research this one further if I were you. Sorry, I don't have the time for another exhaustive search right now. I have pressing responsibilities now.

    Last one is a Food Pusher. Paye & Baker Manufacturing Co. I feel sure - or an 'copy'. Might be in a variation of the marvelous "Pond Lily" pattern. The link below shows the face of the "Pond Lily" (sterling) pattern circa 1900, but not the reverse. It is so similar that I immediately went to ebay and searched for "Pond Lily" to see an example with a photo of reverse, and found several "Pond Lily" items on ebay - but none with a pad design on the reverse. They had the sinuous vines (fewer vines), but not the pads. So you must dig a little on this one. I would be surprised if this were not by Paye & Baker. P & B - one of the glories of American Silversmithing, much beloved. Don't know about the markings. You'll have to look on the internet for the ASCO. I don't recognize that offhand. No, I don't think it's stainless. This is another magnicent one, I think.

    http://www.replacements.com/webquote/PBMPOL.htm

  2. miKKoChristmas11 miKKoChristmas11, 2 years ago
    Hi, filmnet! I am still crazy-busy (and still crazy, period), but I've been wondering about the food pusher. I have two hypotheses for maker. One is an old firm that became part of International Silver, i.e., American Silver Company. I can't confirm an exact match for your pattern right now, but I found a pattern that is at least very close to it. I think it might be an exact match. Since I don’t have a clear image of both front and back of the pusher, and no photo at all of your hallmark, I can only speculate. The pattern in the linked photos is “Nenuphar” (circa 1905) – dated about 5 years after the introduction of Paye & Baker’s “Pond Lily”. In today’s world, I suspect that ASCO might be sued by Paye & Baker for design infringement, that is, if P&B originated this pattern, and if they had registered it properly.

    http://sterlingflatwarefashions.com/SPPatterns/American2.html

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/NENUPHAR-1905-MASTER-BUTTER-KNIFE-AMERICAN-SILVER-I-S-Hard-to-Find-/150887839276?pt=Antiques_Silver&hash=item23219db62c&nma=true&si=z9S69xXqvz6MMYxv1ZQjfDi%2BnL8%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/1905-A-S-Co-American-Silver-Co-Nenuphar-Pattern-Spoon-/190728041278?pt=Antiques_Silver&hash=item2c6846f33e&nma=true&si=z9S69xXqvz6MMYxv1ZQjfDi%2BnL8%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/American-Silver-Co-NENUPHAR-1905-SAUCE-LADLE-Decent-condition-NR-/221120775757?pt=Antiques_Silver&hash=item337bd3464d

    Follow links to some ASCO hallmarks:

    http://www.sterlingflatwarefashions.com/SPMfgs/SPA1.html

    http://www.925-1000.com/americansilver_A.html

    The other hypothesis – much less likely!, I think - is Adams & Shaw (New York NY and Newark, NJ 1876-1885). Historical association: Caleb Cushing Adams, Thomas Shaw, Thomas Shaw & Co. Made both sterling and silverplated wares. A&S had rights to dies of John R. Wendt, and they made silverplate for Tiffany & Co. They were acquired by Dominick & Haff in 1880. That makes them a little early for this Art Nouveau design, I think. However, there are anomalies of hallmarking and of design….

    Here’s an image of their distinctive hallmark:

    http://www.sterlingflatwarefashions.com/Silversmiths/SilversmithsA1.html

    If you have the time to photograph the food pusher in more detail, and the hallmarks, I'll take a look at it in between applying myself to the arduous work I'm now derelict from. Thanks....Beautiful silver you have!
  3. filmnet filmnet, 2 years ago
    Thanks it this one you posted above
    1905 A.S.Co - American Silver Co - Nenuphar Pattern - Spoon
    I will put a shot of the hallmark now
  4. miKKoChristmas11 miKKoChristmas11, 2 years ago
    Thanks, filmnet. It's a match!
  5. filmnet filmnet, 2 years ago
    Mikko is the date 1857 mean anything
  6. filmnet filmnet, 2 years ago
    Mikko also this is only 4" long, possibly for a child?
  7. miKKoChristmas11 miKKoChristmas11, 2 years ago
    Hi, filmnet. Yes, the food pusher was designed for use by a small child who didn't yet have the coordination needed to manipulate his food onto his spoon or fork. Think of it as a tiny tot's knife. One seldom sees them now, but they've been around for ages. Even Tiffany made them - possibly, it still does. They were often made to match particular flatware patterns. The antique Tiffany one I just saw was in a pattern popular during American Victorian times, but full measurements were not given. The second link shows you one in current production, and gives the measurements.

    http://strangeandpeculiarsilver.blogspot.com/2010/05/food-pusher.html

    http://www.silverminegifts.com/silver-food-pusher-p-2531.html

    RE "1857": Where did you find that mark? Which piece was it on? Dates are sometimes used on old flatware to indicate a patent date. I would have to know the context of this date before venturing an opinion. If you don't hear back from me directly, it means that I have returned to my mind-numbing task. I'll be back when I take my next break. : )




  8. filmnet filmnet, 2 years ago
    The mark is the possible globe above it is stamped 1857 i think hard to read, i have 25 coin spoons which are from Salem or Boston silver men. Ebenezer K. Lakeman silversmith 1700-1830, and others from 1825- i850
  9. filmnet filmnet, 2 years ago
    Mikki I just put the shot of the push name, and coin spoons i have
  10. miKKoChristmas11 miKKoChristmas11, 2 years ago
    Oh, I see. If you examine the ASCO hallmarks in the Sterling Flatware Fashions hallmarks link above, you'll find a very legible "1857". Here's a bit on ASCO history from Dorothy Rainwater's "Encyclopedia of American Silversmiths". I found it under "HOLMES & TUTTLE MFG. CO."

    Bristol, CT
    "Organized" by Israel Holmes in 1851. Made silverplated knives, forks, and spoons. In 1857, they were assumed by Bristol Brass & Clock Co., and they functioned as BBC's silverware 'division' until they were taken over by American Silver Company in 1901. In 1935, International Silver co. purchased the firm.

    Old colonial coin spoons are treasures, and coin spoons from early to mid-nineteenth century are wonderful too. You have many treasures, filmnet!
  11. miKKoChristmas11 miKKoChristmas11, 2 years ago
    I'm not sure I follow you, so I'll answer a question that you might be asking. No, I don't think that one can infer an 1857 patent date or patent application date for this item. The 1857 appears on the company mark, and it isn't properly a date hallmark.

    As for the old coin spoons in the fourth photo, I'd better get back to work before I faint from excitement! What a treasure. Indeed, no mistaking it - these are fabulous! If I were you, I'd list them in separate show and tell entries - at least one for each silversmith. That way you could show both the spoons and the hallmarks in good detail. Unfortunately, my knowledge of colonial silver is very limited. I will be fascinated by these, but might not be able to help much. I am mostly at home nowadays, due to health reasons, and cannot undertake research tasks at distant libraries. I don't have reference works on colonial silver at home. Treasure!

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