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Posted 6 months ago

ks85
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Here is another sword I have, but know nothing about. Does it look familiar to anyone or does anyone have any idea what era it might be? I can't find any markings on it anywhere.
Thanks.

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1. blunderbuss2, 6 months ago
   Hard to tell much by the pics, but looks like the style of a U.S. army/West Point sword. Is the blade engraved? Have to give better pics.. Unmarked is strange if it is what I am speculating. The 3 bar guard is a common U.S. style.
2. ks85, 6 months ago
   Thanks for the love and reply blunderbuss2.
   There are no engravings on the blade. I will try to take some better pics tomorrow when the sun is up.
   Anything or any angle I should take a picture of?
3. blunderbuss2, 6 months ago
   Let's see what our other "experts" say 1st. The high pitch between the finger grooves I've seen in Prussian swords along with that style hand guard. It is strange that there are no markings on what appears to be a well made sword. Lack of engraving probably indicates non-com. The grip is plastic? It's going to be after 1900. Give it a day or 2 as I'm no expert & I want to see what kind of feed-back we get. I've been out of collecting for many years & we have others who are more current.
4. scottvez, 6 months ago
   Looks like a US M1902 Army Officer's Dress sword-- made well into the 20th century and purely ceremonial.
   
   Have you checked the blade where it meets the hilt (handle)-- there should be some markings on the blade in that area.
   
   scott
5. blunderbuss2, 6 months ago
   Ah, here they come! That's what I was thinking scottvez, but no markings? We'll see what developes.
6. Chrisnp, 6 months ago
   I agree that it's a U.S. Model 1902 Army Officer's sword, but it's unusual that there would be no markings. This is the Army's last model sword, obviously begining in 1902, and still used today for ceremonial purposes. I have lists of manufacturers that would narrow down the period of manufacture, if only there were markings. Without the markings, I'd check the materials the sword was made from.
   
   Since most M1902s were privatley purchased, there is quite a bit of variation. Older M1902s would have grips made of horn and ebony wood, or other hard wood either darkly stained or painted. When bakelite (an early form of plastic) came into existance, it was also used for the grips. More modern swords usually use modern plastics, although a few better quality swords continued to be made with hard woods. Older swords also had nickel and occasionally even silver plated guards, later ones were often chrome plated, although again, the higher the quality, the better materials.
   
   
7. ks85, 6 months ago
   Thanks for the love Kevin and thanks for the info Blunderbuss2 Scottvez and Chrisnp.
   
   I took another look and still found no markings. I am pretty sure that the grip is made out of metal if that helps.
8. blunderbuss2, 6 months ago
   The black part of the grip is metal?
9. Chrisnp, 6 months ago
   Metal grips were used on some of the earlier swords. How early, I'm not sure but I think before WWII - perhaps much earlier than that. I'm at the limits of what I do know about these swords. What I find interesting about yours is that there is no etching on the blade. Looking at the pommel, I wonder if this blade was original to the hilt. At this point I'm just speculating. By the way, some Model 1902s were purchased by various fraternal organizations as well.
10. ks85, 5 months ago
    Yes, the black part of the grip is metal, I believe.
    I will try to get a picture of it tomorrow.
    
    Thanks again for the info Chrisnp. I will try to get a better closeup photo as well.

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