Posted 1 year ago
After a another year of research, this posting has been revised due to research evolving.
I have come to the conclusion on the Welz and Ruckl debate, that honestly we will NEVER know who made what until proper documentation is available.
The majority of the research that has been done is by taking a documented shape and using the decor to match with other shapes that are not documented.
Unfortunately, I don't believe this research works because we are finding many Bohemian glass companies produced the same thing.
It is important to understand the majority of the research that is done on Ruckl and Welz is EMPIRICAL research which means it's an opinion given and not based on theory or fact.
I was very lucky to have a conversation with Deb Truitt in regards to the Ruckl/Welz debate. She explained, "The problem comes when extrapolating from a known to an unknown piece. We don't have enough documentation yet to differentiate among pieces from different companies. It was a business for the glass makers, and they made what the markets wanted so many pieces are similar. So, yes, call things Bohemian until we have documentation."
My intentions for this post is to help collectors understand if you are going to rely on empirical research, be prepared to change your mind often about attributions.
Please keep in mind, if you take a documented shape and find other shapes in the same matching decor, Welz , Ruckl and Harrach will bump into each other with this type of glass.
As another example: Take a documented Loetz Tango piece in red with a black rim, and match other shapes that are red with the black trim on the rim, collector's will find more than one glass maker was producing the same thing or let's say the collector is not aware Bohemian glass companies were copying off each other, and glass was matched by decor, the collector would think it was produced by one maker which is not true.
Sorry to say... but the Welz, and Ruckl attributions are not 100% correct. So I'm taking the advice I was given by calling it Bohemian and adding Export, because more than one company was producing the same type of glass and there is practically NO documented proof to know who made what when it comes to this type of glass.
HERE IS THE ORIGINAL POSTING:
Same shaped vase in different colors. The Ruckl vase in the center is a 12" and the other two are around 9" tall. All three vases have a design shift in the applied decor at the footed base. No applied riagree on the other two vases as well. Rims are cut and no pontil on the base.
The new Ruckl decor to introduce is yellow marble and is a very common variation to find in many different shapes. The other decor is pink and green aventurine with splashes of oxblood red. If the two vases were taller they would appear longer at the bulbous section of the vase as seen in the 12".
BTW: All three vases have a different colour interior casing. Numbers match by order of photos.
1. Translucent Yellow
2. Opaque Red
3. Opaque White
Please... if anyone has a shape to share, post your example. I would love to see what you have and so would others who have interest on the subject! :) The more decors found in this shape will open doors for the possibilities to be associated with Ruckl. Even other shapes will help further research.
More to follow of same shapes with different decors...