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Posted 2 years ago

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heidinors
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Another beautiful piece inherited from my grandfather. A bilateral postal scales. Not sure of the year, welcome any suggestions.
Markings on the back: OEST.P. 1766; UNG.P. 16742; D.R.P. 112860.121631
According to this site: "the markings above repersent four patents: the Austrian patent (OEST.P. 1766) was granted to the firm Balduin Heller's Söhne from Teplitz in Czechoslovakia. The application was made June 24, 1899, the patent was granted April 1, 1900. The Hungarian patent (UNG.P.16742) was granted to the firm at January 4, of the year 1900. The second German patent (D.R.P. 121631) dates from March 29, 1899 and was also granted to Balduin Heller's Söhne from Teplitz. Therefore the scale is dated to c1900."

http://collectingme.com/Measuring/Balduin_Hellers_Sohne_letter_scale.aspx

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  1. vetraio50 vetraio50, 2 years ago
    Post Office scales?
  2. heidinors heidinors, 2 years ago
    Not sure. Is that what you think it is?
  3. kerry10456 kerry10456, 2 years ago
    I don't think it's a scale. Believe it's a "Gig" for angle cuts(tool) or "pitch" angles on a chain or something along those lines. I really don't know, but that's my impression of this.
    Kerry
    BTW, Hope someone will know what it is for sure, thanks for sharing!!
  4. heidinors heidinors, 2 years ago
    Thank you Kerry. I will add that sub category to see.
  5. blunderbuss2 blunderbuss2, 2 years ago
    The base is too elaborate to be a carpentry tool. I think it may be a scale missing the counter balance or assembled wrong.
  6. heidinors heidinors, 2 years ago
    Should I take another photo at a different angle?
  7. epson233 epson233, 2 years ago
    heidinors again -- wonderful post tonight from you by the way -- here my two bit opinion -- i think it is a nautical sextant of some sort used to plot the stars for navigation or mapping -- the numbers appear to be degrees but can't tell for sure -- any other writings or patent numbers on it -- looks like it is missing the telescope -- just another thought or avenue for your research
  8. heidinors heidinors, 2 years ago
    I will upload another with numbers from the back.
  9. kerry10456 kerry10456, 2 years ago
    I'll go with scales now, lol.
  10. heidinors heidinors, 2 years ago
    I uploaded some images of the bottom and back, showing the numbers I found.
  11. heidinors heidinors, 2 years ago
    Thank you for your kind words, Epson.
    I think you may be right, Kerry.
  12. heidinors heidinors, 2 years ago
    The writing on the wheel is in fractions. The wheel has some prongs on them and actually seperate with weight.
  13. epson233 epson233, 2 years ago
    ok -- were getting closer -- help me out with the wording -- i can read geschutzt -- which just is the german form for what we use as " U.S. patent" -- doesn't refer to a brass manufacture as many sellers erroneously list the item that way -- it might also be a road surveyor -- i think those numbers on the wheel are degrees -- what do you think -- looks like it has two sets and the larger wheel goes upto 40 -- am i correct
  14. epson233 epson233, 2 years ago
    what is the word or words under geschutzt please
  15. blunderbuss2 blunderbuss2, 2 years ago
    A transit aliens left behind. The German patent is to confuse us. Can you tell it's getting late here?
  16. heidinors heidinors, 2 years ago
    LOL blunder...
    It does show "OZ" on the wheel.. on the bottom under the German word it reads "Real Bronce" exact spelling.
  17. vetraio50 vetraio50, 2 years ago
    The term to search is : bilateral postal scales.

    The 'oz' is an abbreviation for ounces.
    OEST.P. 1766. Oesterreichisches Patent (= Austrian patent) with number 1766 ...

    Here's the rest of it:
    http://members.casema.nl/a.a.m.sol/2891e.htm
  18. kerry10456 kerry10456, 2 years ago
    Good job V50
  19. epson233 epson233, 2 years ago
    oh another mystery solved -- hey kid 3 for 3 -- what a night for the baby book - love it!!!! -- nice job vetraio
  20. blunderbuss2 blunderbuss2, 2 years ago
    The new pics make it look a little more balanced(pun?)
  21. heidinors heidinors, 2 years ago
    My baby book is looking good... thank you all
  22. heidinors heidinors, 2 years ago
    Vetraio50, thank you so much for the information. 1766 you think is the patent number? I am still looking for more information. I can not find anything with the same base, all are a solid metal.
  23. heidinors heidinors, 2 years ago
    Vertraio50, the base is a bit different on the link you sent me, is this common for manufactures back then to use different base's? Your link is the only one I found that is close to this.

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