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Posted 1 year ago

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milousmc
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FIRST :
LET me correct a misconception concerning IVORY'S and Specifically ELEPHANT IVORY; IT IS LEGAL to own, possess,sell,trade and buy ELEPHANT IVORY IN AMERICA ! CALIFORNIA has STATE laws which now PROHIBIT the purchas sale or tranportation of any ivory item no matter how legal it is . THEY enforce it through their State Parks and Wild life system .Though not very effectively it is the law in that state . SO before conducting business with regards to the ivorys please call and get a written information letter from the WILD LIFE DEPT of CALIFORNIA . Donot rely on a phone call as most of the officers hardly realize there is a law like that and could give you
mistaken information.
, Apparently the social class in SAN FRANSISCO JUSt keep their collections private ..
THE rest of America still trades in Ivory as long as they donot import or exprot or buy illegally. there are exceptions and forms which the US CUSTOMS AND US FISH AND WILD LIFE HAVE that will allow certian imports and exports .
UNDER International Treaty it is illegal to Export or Import any new Ivory with several exceptions .Religious or research specifically. There are times which by prior arrangement with the U.S. CUSTOMS international trade can be accomplished .
THE MAIN Treaty concerning endangered animals,plants and goods that applies to IVORY is :
CITES (the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species of Wild Fauna and Flora), also known as the Washington Convention) is a multilateral treaty, drafted as a result of a resolution adopted in 1963 at a meeting of members of the International Union for Conservation of Nature (IUCN). The convention was opened for signature in 1973, and CITES entered into force on 1 July 1975. Its aim is to ensure that international trade in specimens of wild animals and plants does not threaten the survival of the species in the wild, and it accords varying degrees of protection to more than 34,000 species of animals and plants. In order to ensure that the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade (GATT) was not violated, the Secretariat of GATT was consulted during the drafting process.[2]
I get chills when I hear someone has given their collection to a non profit Organization to destroy 50 to 100 yr old legal IVORY to help protect the modern elephant it only makes the Ivory more scre and those who want it look for illegal ways to get it , protect the living elephants with judicus use of GAME WWATDENS PRISION TIME and rewards to the locals who turn in those poachers!
1. ivory taken before the treaty is legalIf it has providence it is legal if you have areceipt it is legal and as long as it is not still greasy from just being taken off an elephant it is legal ( Ivory retains a greasy feel for many years but Ivory tusk are especially slick (GREEN)
2. one organization got people to contribute their collections in 2009 to help African Elephants in KENYA that NON PROFIT made
$17.3 million in 3 days re selling those items to collector who knew that IVORY WAS LEGAL!!!
Of the 17 million, a substantial , ( large LEGAL portion went to the directors,E-BXY President and Friends for operation of the non Profit) then the balance was sent to a non profit in Africa(directors were the same as the American NON profit) where the pie to help the Animals became even less .. Roughly 11% of the money actually went into any land management or to capture poachers. THE funny part is that ELEPHANTS donot live in only one Country and the scope of their travels in a 2 year span could take them to 6 country's 4 of which donot have the funds or manpower to control poaching
NOTE I HAVE HAD NO DENYLS FROM ANY OF THOSE INVOLVED in $ years of posting the same complaint nor have their attornies contacted me . SAYS something about the operation....
I have a collection of Ivory which I started over 40 years ago.
25 hand carved Chess Sets from China, JAPAN and other South EAST ASIA countries.I have carvings from 11 African NATIONS and India
The total value of all items on todays market is just over $1,233721.00
I have nothing which was purchased illegally most items were crafted before 1965.
For those who think OWNERS of these beautiful pieces of art should dispose of them . ,PLEASE think of this .FROM early European and Egyptian times the scraps left after carving Ivory were burned int coal ash and then mixed with oils and liquidizers to make something called "ARTIST IVORY BLACK OIL PAINT "Artist have used this dense and shiny black paint century's . By the extrapolated thought process of the non profits . WE MUST destroy most of the worlds Greatest ART WORK because ivory is the main component of the product .

MANY of my items are less than 1/3 inch tall and a group carvings from JAPAN CALLED NETSUKE :
are miniature sculptures that were invented in 17th-century Japan to serve a practical function (the two Japanese characters ne+tsuke mean "root" and "to attach"). Traditional Japanese garments—robes called kosode and kimono—had no pockets; however, men who wore them needed a place to store their personal belongings, such as pipes, tobacco, money, seals, or medicines.

Their solution was to place such objects in containers (called sagemono) hung by cords from the robes' sashes (obi). The containers may have been pouches or small woven baskets, but the most popular were beautifully crafted boxes (inr?), which were held shut by ojime, which were sliding beads on cords. Whatever the form of the container, the fastener that secured the cord at the top of the sash was a carved, button-like toggle called a netsuke.

Netsuke, like the inr? and ojime, evolved over time from being strictly utilitarian into objects of great artistic merit and an expression of extraordinary craftsmanship. Such objects have a long history reflecting the important aspects of Japanese folklore and life. Netsuke production was most popular during the Edo period in Japan, around 1615-1868. Today, the art lives on, and some modern works can command high prices in the UK, Europe, the USA, Japan and elsewhere. Inexpensive yet faithful reproductions made of processed clays and some pulverized ivory are available in museums and souvenir shops.

I have worked for STATE local and Federal Agency's as well as Insurance Companies and dealers Placing values on purchases, losses and claims resulting from theft, fires and disappearance .
IF you are going to give away your Ivory or any item which has value .Give to your MUSEUM, School or You have an Auction and use those funds to do local charity work..

Comments

  1. milousmc, 1 year ago
    I will accept any questions concerning the above statements and If I can I will direct you to sites which can help you identify and classify your items,There are 5 ivorys including the Ivory billed bird and an additional section for mammoths which are not controlled by CITIES Treaty.
  2. milousmc, 1 year ago
    PLEASE NEVER BELIEVE ANYONE ABOUT THE FACTS CONCERNING LAWS which could effect your living standards ,and life style.: ALWAYS do your own research and get legal help and advice from those trained in that area.

    if you have been illegally charged with something which you did not do. STAND up for your rights as AN AMERICAN
  3. musikchoo musikchoo, 1 year ago
    Well Put Milousme, Well Put !! I agree !!
  4. Chaddiesgirl, 1 year ago
    Could you look at the pics I just posted and tell me a bit about my ivory statues. I inherited them, and can't find any info on them online. They are Kitagawa Ivory. Thanks

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