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This is an old photograph of Henry Ford that some of you may enjoy taking a look at. I found the negative and developed it. The 4 x 6 picture one can see in this listing is not the original, but the negative is which is about 5L x 4W inches. Since this is a negative it is safe to say I believe that this is the only one produced of this picture. Correct me if I am wrong. This and the Einstein photo I listed on here were part of the same collection from an individual that had many of these sorts of original items.
The side of the negative says Kodak Safety 102. The license plate says 1914 NY 71354. So this helps possibly date the photograph. Henry Ford is sitting in the passenger seat. Does anyone know who the driver may be or anyone else in the picture? He kinda looks like Santa Claus. ; ) Also which car is this? I believe it is a Model T. This is the reason I am marking this as an unsolved mystery. Thank you in advance for any feedback any of you may provide.
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Take care and have an awesome day everyone! : )
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Hey Manikin long time no see! I hope all is well. Thanks for the love and have a blessed day! : )
Original, maybe, it depends a lot on when and where you got it. I am seeing so many of the "originals" on the internet these days, especially when they are reproducing negatives now and selling them big time. I have had the opportunity to buy a number of negatives lately knowing full well the price paid is usually blown up because of the fact that it is a negative. Recently though I had a chance to buy a lot of negatives of Elizabeth Taylor taken by her personal photographer during the burton years, mainly, that I knew were the originals because of the provenance, and the starting price of 300,000. It did not sell. A lot of hollywood and old kodak archives negatives are being printed however for the auction market now as they are hot and prices are big, though some do not realize it is not the only negative. Depends mainly on provenance, however it looks like a wonderful thing !~Phil.
I appreciate you loving this item and the thorough response PhilDavid. I am very thankful. Great information.
Manikin, mustang, pw, poop, beach, blunder, and vetra thank you so much for loving this and other items of mine. All of you are always welcome to pass by my neck of the woods.... : )
I cannot tell you about the car’s driver, but I can share details about the film negative. The term “Safety” appearing on the top edge means the base material is cellulose diacetate (or cellulose acetate) as opposed to earlier nitrate based film. “Safety” means that the film is not flammable. This is important in dating the negative because Kodak started marking their acetate films with the word “Safety” starting around 1930.
Additionally, the negative and (and a positive I made of the negative using photo-editing software) shows what appears to be a re-photograph of an earlier card mounted picture; which is a common practice when there is a desire to preserve rare pictures.
All-in-all, the negative cannot be earlier than the 1930s. Regardless, I like the picture of Ford. ~ Rob
Thanks for the love BELLIN! Great seeing you around. Happy Holidays to you and your as well my friend! : )
Awesome information Rob! Thank you so much for sharing and loving the picture. I am ever so grateful for your expertise. So what you are saying is that this is possibly a rare photo that was originally a card mounted picture made into a negative as we see here to preserve it? So this would probably be the only one of this type made based on your experience? So it seems that it would still be highly collectable in this state as opposed to being the original card mounted picture? Thank you for your patience with my questions. It is an exciting and historical piece. Wishing you and your family nothing but the best my friend! : ) ~Anthony
In regards to this being the 'only one' (or whatever), it's difficult to know the motivation. It could be that the original negative was lost and a record of the image was needed or desired. If it were a professional copy job, I'd expect to see the image squared up with more precision. I've done copy work shooting up to 8x10 negs and you work hard to make sure everything is spot on. This looks more 'casual' but it's still an effort making a 4x5 neg. Regardless, the original image would still be the most desirable thing to have. But if the neg is gone and there are no originals prints to be found, then this is a great record of a lost image. You probably need to do some digging. .: Rob
Rob thank you so much once again for the additional information. I guess I have some research to do.... : ) ~Anthony
The guy in the the driver's seat kinda looks like Alexander Graham Bell.
But it could very well be Santa!
Great picture regardless!
kerry thanks for the love and I appreciate you liking the post as well stones.
walk you are right! It does seem to look like Alexander Graham Bell. He was alive then and had the facial hair like the guy in this picture around the 1914 time frame. So awesome call and thanks for sharing the post as well as enjoying the picture. Peace out.... : )
Hello, I am the person who Bought this negative, so here is my research and I could also be wrong but…
A 1914 Ford Model T Touring Car, was Given to a Mr John Burroughs as a gift from Mr Ford.
http://www.americanheritage.com/content/1914-ford-model-t-touring-car-given-john-burroughs-henry-ford
I believe the photograph was taken on Henry Ford’s estate
http://www.henryfordestate.org/filesgrotto/crnerstnebig.jpg
Ta dahhhhhhh, yes? No? huh :)
Sounds like you did some great research on the item JHERTL! Awesome job putting the dots together. I thank you and musikchoo for appreciating this item my friends.