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Posted 2 years ago


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I was trying to figure this out. Beautifully carved ivory vial. Figured it was a perfume bottle but also questioned the use of ivory for a liquid. Asking friends in the "Chinnie" community I know, It turns out to be for snuff or something similar. Trying to get a translation of the characters on the bottom, & find out it is in reverse so is a stamp. I've done the ink-pad bit & hope one of them can tell me tomorrow. One said it looked like a name & probably used for a stamp or seal.

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  1. epson233 epson233, 2 years ago
    or maybe a opium storage vial -- cw had a good segment last month on opium tools and collections
  2. czechman czechman, 2 years ago
    snuff or opium is what these were used there a metal spoon attached to the lid? if not theres prob a very small hole where the "spoon" was.. i have a silver one of these but the original spoon is missing..someone replaced it with a piece of copper wire.. .. nice bottle!
  3. blunderbuss2 blunderbuss2, 2 years ago
    Probably never know about the spoon as the top is stuck tight & leaving for Australia.
  4. toracat toracat, 2 years ago
    I love it! Beautiful! You can look up ivory and it will show the lines for real and different types of ivory, lines are different for mammoth and elephant and whale, walrus etc. Put some olive oil on to loosen top!
  5. blunderbuss2 blunderbuss2, 2 years ago
    toracat, will remember that for the future but this piece left for Australia this morning. Thanks for the appreciation to you and all the others.
  6. kyratango kyratango, 1 year ago
    Hi, have one, and under a magnifier could see very tiny "pearls" in the design (as in your's in the windows).
    I removed them with a needle and burned them... They melted with chemical odor!
    So: not ivory, neither bone but an early kind of resin!
    Anyway, it is not a new one but at least 40 years old.
  7. Agram.m Agram.m, 12 months ago
    I love this what a craftsmanship!
  8. idcloisonne idcloisonne, 3 months ago
    This is a neat piece, looks like yellow cinnabar to me not ivory, but carved lacquer.
  9. blunderbuss2 blunderbuss2, 3 months ago
    You have moved out of my field of expertise id. These were given to me by an Aussie friend. He had some aircraft experience & I cleared him thru security & payed him to help me. Then he started telling my clients that he had a lic. to work on their planes(for less of course). I let him go and gave him his stuff back. We are still casual friends but not close friends. Such is life in the tropics! Still trying to figure out how he thought he was going to get thru security with out my sponsorship? Unscrupulous people are a dime a dozen!
  10. idcloisonne idcloisonne, 3 months ago
    Quite a story and now understand how it moved back to Australia. Dishonest people are all over...was he the one that said it was ivory?
    Some places they do seem cockier, Latin America, the Caribbean etc. Practically insulting in a way, as if you don't have a clue...
    If you are curious I can find a link to another similar Chinese snuff bottle, if you don't care, that's fine, this post did start two years ago. Thanks for the reply. :-)
  11. blunderbuss2 blunderbuss2, 3 months ago
    Actually id, we both thought it is ivory & both of us have good experience in that sort of thing. The texture, feel & temperature felt right. "Me not know, mon". By the way, I live in the "Wayward" Islands. That's history & I'm not interested in following up on them unless another falls into my hands. Appreciate your interest.
  12. idcloisonne idcloisonne, 3 months ago
    Know about your island home, says on your id page. I live on a remote island too, island of woods, lakes and wildlife.... Internet makes all the difference. Thanks for your feedback.
  13. blunderbuss2 blunderbuss2, 3 months ago
    Just ck'd your id. Live near North Bay? Love Canada & been there 105 times. Beautiful country.
  14. idcloisonne idcloisonne, 3 months ago
    Not far from there, between Sudbury and Sault Ste Marie, 20 minute drive north from Trans Canada Highway #17. Old uranium mining town in the middle of nowhere.
    Feels like an island. Very quiet with sweet clean air.
    Glad you like Canada, still lots of space in a natural state. I tell people it will be the new Florida when other Southern areas run out of resources. Food and water. ;-)
    Love your new picture, gosh darn... why do men look cuter when they age?
  15. idcloisonne idcloisonne, 3 months ago
    I could'nt resist having a look anyway, and then discovered a huge amount of snuff bottles like your's described as ivory, then found what I think is 'real' ivory bottles, and wanted you to see the difference in approach. The ivory ones 'show off' the expensive material, the cinnabar or faux ivory ones are deeply etched and carved, where you can't tell what it is. Linking a group image, with an accurate description. You never know, this might come in handy someday...
  16. blunderbuss2 blunderbuss2, 3 months ago
    So id, the lower relief ones would be more likely to be real ivory? Never to old to learn. Well, I might be the exception! They don't float my way often so doubt I will see another one. My email is on my profile for chat. EH!
  17. idcloisonne idcloisonne, 3 months ago
    Glad you don't mind my pursuing the topic. Had a hunch and wanted to verify if I was wrong or not. I felt that if it was real ivory the decorative approach would have been different, respecting the gorgeous elephant ivory material with less handling. These other bottles like your's look too much like the red cinnabar lacquer decorations used by the Chinese for a long time. EH! Oui. Talk to you soon.
  18. blunderbuss2 blunderbuss2, 3 months ago
    Id, I think you might be right,eh. As said, I'm no expert & it's not my field of interest, eh. A bientot, - EH.

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