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Posted 5 months ago

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nldionne
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This weighs about seven pounds and is possibly from Europe . Looks like bunches of circles inside. Any ideas?
Please find enclosed the expertise of your piece.
Description : vase in cased crystal : clear/green Décor : large
pastilles who increase and cut with biseaux.
Technique : The piece is cased and blown in an iron mould. The cutting
is realized with a diamond wheel.
Date : it is a vase of the 1930's, like a "Sion". The cutting is also
representative for the Art Déco style.
Estimation : 450 euro.
Kind regards

Myriam Roemers - Export
Val Saint Lambert

Mystery Solved

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  1. nldionne nldionne, 5 months ago
    thanks, I love it too
  2. vetraio50 vetraio50, 5 months ago
    The usual suspects are Belgium and Czechoslovakia; but both Russia and France are possibilities. No marks at all? Palda, Egermann and Gus-Khrustalny are some possible names for further research. There many others. Look for marks of Moser, Baccarat and Val St Lambert. Nice vase!
  3. nldionne nldionne, 5 months ago
    Thanks for the info. Mother-in-law was from Belgium and it has been around since all can remember. I was leaning toward Val St Lambert but I know nothing at all about glass. There are no marks so it may remain a mystery forever. You are wonderful, Thanks!!!
  4. nldionne nldionne, 5 months ago
    thanks to all who love this
  5. nldionne nldionne, 4 months ago
    Any new eyes out there that may recognize this? Have looked forever for it with no luck.
  6. bratjdd bratjdd, 4 months ago
    Love it!!!!
  7. AmberRose AmberRose, 4 months ago
    You need Tall Cakes. He da man.
    Hey, how are you?
  8. nldionne nldionne, 4 months ago
    Have you checked out the seeing machine battle going on?
  9. TallCakes TallCakes, 4 months ago
    I'd have to agree with your European assessment on this one. I'm a student of EAPG so that would be mostly a guess.
  10. nldionne nldionne, 4 months ago
    Thanks for looking tallcakes!
  11. nldionne nldionne, 3 months ago
    This one eye, sorry
  12. nldionne nldionne, 3 months ago
    Eye there are no markings that I can find. Good morning!
  13. nldionne nldionne, 3 months ago
    http://www.rubylane.com/item/470599-3607/c-1930s-40s-Val-St

    Do you think I'm getting close?
  14. nldionne nldionne, 3 months ago
    No I haven't seen, will look!
  15. nldionne nldionne, 3 months ago
    I see a resemblance. Sent request to company but did not have option for picture. Don't know if they will get back to me.
  16. nldionne nldionne, 3 months ago
    this is as clear as it is going to get. rim of bottom is scruffy not chipped but not smoothe.
  17. nldionne nldionne, 3 months ago
    Thanks sweetie!
  18. nldionne nldionne, 3 months ago
    that one is close too isnt it. dont waste your whole day on this Eye.
  19. nldionne nldionne, 3 months ago
    http://www.eliseabramsantiques.com/glass/vases-tazzas-compotes/val-st-lambert-eggplant-overlay-cut-clear-art-deco-vase

    check out the shape of this one.
  20. nldionne nldionne, 3 months ago
    Our brain is getting stunned trying to find it
  21. nldionne nldionne, 3 months ago
    What the hell is a loupe?
  22. nldionne nldionne, 3 months ago
    The edge on the bottom is scratchy . It looks exactly the same shape as link in #26
  23. nldionne nldionne, 3 months ago
    Thought I found it on yahoo images till I recognized my coffee table. Hate when that happens!
  24. nldionne nldionne, 3 months ago
    Can't see bottom where is scratchy but can't find anywhere
  25. nldionne nldionne, 3 months ago
    Ohhhhhh
  26. nldionne nldionne, 3 months ago
    It is very worn, is there any way to buff it or something to see if anything is under there?
  27. nldionne nldionne, 3 months ago
    Okay I'm off to get a loube. Do you know my auto correct thinks loube is olive.
  28. nldionne nldionne, 3 months ago
    Thanks don't care if it is st lambert just want to know who made it. Thanks for your time.
  29. nldionne nldionne, 3 months ago
    I didn't buy this it was my mother in laws. Just trying to get history.
  30. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 3 months ago
    Hi Bellin.. there is a lot of unsigned VSL out there. they used paper labels.
  31. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 3 months ago
    to the best of my knowledge VSL was not always signed even after then. Nothing I've read from any of the scholars on this topic has ever implied that.

    I am not saying this particular piece is or is not VSL.. but they were not always signed.
  32. nldionne nldionne, 3 months ago
    Thanks for the info greatsnowyowl, much appreciated.
    Thanks for the loves everyone.

  33. nldionne nldionne, 3 months ago
    No of course not.
  34. nldionne nldionne, 3 months ago
    Oh sweet Bellin, you could never upset me in anyway!
  35. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 3 months ago
    Are you in the netherlands nldionne or was this bought in the belgium?

    If so it's very unlikely that this is American.
  36. nldionne nldionne, 3 months ago
    It was my mother in laws, she came from Belgium.
  37. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 3 months ago
    I caught that SHE came from belgium but is there evidence that she had this prior to coming to the states or was she still in belgium when this was brought out of her estate.
  38. nldionne nldionne, 3 months ago
    She brought it to USA from Belgium when she married my husbands father in early 40's during war.
  39. nldionne nldionne, 3 months ago
    At this point I have no idea! I'll keep looking since my husband wants to know but I release you oh mighty one:)
  40. nldionne nldionne, 3 months ago
    Thanks, needed a good laugh this morning. Oh I bought a loube for next time.
  41. nldionne nldionne, 3 months ago
    Thanks Bellin but I am not sure what it is yet but I will keep looking until I'm sure. Good morning darlin
  42. nldionne nldionne, 3 months ago
    Nope not yet, isn't available on iPhone have to crank up my PC.
  43. nldionne nldionne, 3 months ago
    thank you for the video
    Nancy
  44. nldionne nldionne, 3 months ago
    The Roseville sunflower? Don't know just wanted to check most roseville small bowls don't run much but evidently sunflower is very collectible or something. On eBay every piece I saw was running a lot higher than similar piece with different pattern. May want to reconsider or hold off to research.
  45. nldionne nldionne, 3 months ago
    LOL. Is emerald green, sorry:)
  46. nldionne nldionne, 3 months ago
    Eye, this vase doesn't exist. I have looked at every vase on the web I think. Moser, baccarat, st lambert, bohemian, Czech, it does not exist...
  47. nldionne nldionne, 3 months ago
    Okay, you are right!
  48. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 3 months ago

    http://www.glas-musterbuch.de/Val-Saint-Lambert.48.0.html
    there is a pattern that is shown in bowl form that is very similar to this pattern in the 1947 catalog. it's called yalta or yalla. not sure which. the undated catalog also had an example with round cut outs like this has as main ornamentation.
  49. nldionne nldionne, 3 months ago
    Thanks so much GSO! This is driving me insane but every time I start to give up I get another clue as to who to look at. Eye4Beauty is an excellent researcher so maybe someday if we don't go blind by then from staring at a computer screen we may find it. Thanks again.
  50. nldionne nldionne, 3 months ago
    You are correct there are a bunch of great people with so much expertise and I thank them all.
  51. nldionne nldionne, 3 months ago
    But do not sell yourself short either my friend:)
  52. nldionne nldionne, 3 months ago
    GSO I think you're right it really looks close. I was at a get together for my great niece she is leaving Monday to go onto the army so didn't have a chance to check this out. I really appreciate you taking the time to find this site. You are wonderful!!!
  53. nldionne nldionne, 3 months ago
    You just can't let it go can you:)
  54. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 3 months ago
    It's a good site to keep bookmarked. they have a lot of great catalogs there. It's been very useful over the years.
  55. nldionne nldionne, 3 months ago
    I have, thanks for sharing.
  56. nldionne nldionne, 3 months ago
    Oh so true!
  57. nldionne nldionne, 3 months ago
    Think I may break down and buy a catalogue or something since we can't find on web anywhere.
  58. nldionne nldionne, 3 months ago
    Good morning. Have been busy playing mom. Found 5 baby kittens 1 day old a few days ago only one made it so he/she is now living with me. We have made it through 3 nights so odds are getting better. Did you see comment from vintage robot on hullow post?
  59. nldionne nldionne, 3 months ago
    Thanks Epson, I know why I'm up this early but I'm eastern. I have found that a lot of CW'rs are very early risers or insomniacs:)
  60. epson233 epson233, 3 months ago
    your most welcome -- good morning to you also -- i'm northwester -- insomniac here
  61. nldionne nldionne, 3 months ago
    Thanks MDantiques
  62. nldionne nldionne, 3 months ago
    :) :) :) ;) back atcha
  63. nldionne nldionne, 3 months ago
    Miss you
  64. nldionne nldionne, 3 months ago
    Thanks TR
  65. nldionne nldionne, 3 months ago
    Thanks Antiq-lover
    Thanks Musikchoo sorry I missed you.
  66. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 3 months ago
    awww I just saw this. so sad about the baby kitties. did teh one living baby make it?
  67. nldionne nldionne, 3 months ago
    Thanks GSO. Yes the one I have been nursing is thriving. I had many people asking about him so i posted a picture. His name is Gumption for his will to fight. He is pictured in a little pottery bowl and should be close to top of 1st page since I just responded to a comment on him. I am being told that it is an inappropriate post so it may be taken down, thanks for asking! Have a great day.
  68. RussTenale RussTenale, 2 months ago
    Excuse my thought. 3 months and no one here can help?

  69. nldionne nldionne, 2 months ago
    We worked on it for a long time just can't find it. Greatsnowyowl found a pattern yalla or something like that from val st lambert. Eye4beauty worked on this forever but all his comments left when he did.
  70. RussTenale RussTenale, 2 months ago
    Ok, all his work was erased?

    http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=WlDo-T5rHLk&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DWlDo-T5rHLk

  71. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 2 months ago
    what happened with Eye? I just now put it together that they left? :(
  72. nldionne nldionne, 2 months ago
    Didn't ask, I figured if he wanted me to know he would tell me. He is missed. Excellent CW detective;)
  73. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 2 months ago
    that's really a pity. Hopefully he comes back!
  74. nldionne nldionne, 2 months ago
    I know GSO. I really miss his sense of humor. He really made my day.
  75. nldionne nldionne, 2 months ago
    He did not know comments would be erased from my posts.
  76. nldionne nldionne, 2 months ago
    Thanks Russ
  77. RussTenale RussTenale, 2 months ago
    A million thoughts.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dark-EMERALD-GREEN-Vase-CUT-TO-CLEAR-CRYSTAL-Nachtmann-BAMBERG-Germany-/390395041850

  78. nldionne nldionne, 2 months ago
    There's not another one like it in the world or at least on http://WWW. For days and weeks we looked at every cut to clear vase there is with no luck. That's why this has been a mystery for so long:)
  79. RussTenale RussTenale, 2 months ago
    We can try

    http://www.1stdibs.com/furniture/more-furniture-collectibles/vases/red-overlay-vase/id-f_584409/

  80. RussTenale RussTenale, 2 months ago
    Look at the star base on this one.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/ART-DECO-RUBY-RED-CUT-CRYSTAL-VASE-VAL-ST-LAMBERT-BY-JOSEPH-SIMON-BELGIUM-/171015007939?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27d149eec3
  81. nldionne nldionne, 2 months ago
    I sent another request to val st lambert site to find if theirs. They seem to be the closest I can come. Hopefully they will respond. They requested picture a while back. The circle affect on this one is same as on mine.
  82. nldionne nldionne, 2 months ago
    This is exact shape and size different cut

    http://www.eliseabramsantiques.com/glass/vases-tazzas-compotes/val-st-lambert-eggplant-overlay-cut-clear-art-deco-vase
  83. RussTenale RussTenale, 2 months ago
    Oh my, this is screaming VSL for sure. I was going to suggest getting a picture to them.
  84. nldionne nldionne, 2 months ago
    Seems like someone took a piece of this one and another piece of that one and put together my vase.
  85. RussTenale RussTenale, 2 months ago
    Exactly. I am seeing influences all over from other pieces. A collaboration maybe?
  86. nldionne nldionne, 2 months ago
    That's what we thought. But it could be anybody's. Along with all the other clues my mother in law brought it from Belgium when she came to USA during war.
  87. RussTenale RussTenale, 2 months ago
    We need good pattern books to look through. Archives.
  88. RussTenale RussTenale, 2 months ago
    http://www.eliseabramsantiques.com/glass/vases-tazzas-compotes/val-st-lambert-eggplant-overlay-cut-clear-art-deco-vase

  89. nldionne nldionne, 2 months ago
    Comment #69 is a link to some old catalogue that greatsnowyowl sent me.
  90. RussTenale RussTenale, 2 months ago
    Look at the 16th one down here.

    http://www.kilshaws.com/specialty_items.php?archive=past&category=Crystal%20%26%20Glass
  91. nldionne nldionne, 2 months ago
    Go sit on a rock, I sent you that one 38 minutes ago:)
  92. nldionne nldionne, 2 months ago
    And another piece of my vase:)
    Is really strange isn't it? Or is it just me?
  93. RussTenale RussTenale, 2 months ago
    I'm going there now.
    Sorry, I was just thinking out loud here.
  94. nldionne nldionne, 2 months ago
    Thanks for taking an interest in this Russ.
  95. nldionne nldionne, 2 months ago
    Russ, Good Morning. Got response from site Val St Lambert. They say it appears to be Val St Lambert but they do not have this vase on file. Want to send to expert for 90 Euros. It will be worth it to me to find out one way or another. I would like to get answer for Eye since he worked so hard on this. Hope it's a good thing if it is theirs and they don't have one:) thanks for your help on this. Maybe we will have answer soon.
  96. RussTenale RussTenale, 2 months ago
    Excuse my enthusiasium. Sweet! Be cautious though. You have stated before that it wasn't important to you the maker , so 117 bucks. Trust me, eye would not want you to waste money.
  97. nldionne nldionne, 2 months ago
    You may be right. It's just that we have worked so hard on this.
  98. RussTenale RussTenale, 2 months ago
    And that last thought is between you and me only:)
  99. nldionne nldionne, 2 months ago
    Thanks for a good laugh on this rainy day!
  100. nldionne nldionne, 2 months ago
    What comment it seems to have disappeared:)
  101. nldionne nldionne, 2 months ago
    Love delete buttons
  102. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 2 months ago
    They want you to ship it to them? and it will cost 90 euros? I think you are as solid as you're going to be on an attribution here. If they say it appears to be theirs I'd run with it. I wouldn't ship it to them. Odds are of something happening to it and whatnot..
  103. RussTenale RussTenale, 2 months ago
    Love mysteries.
  104. RussTenale RussTenale, 2 months ago
    GSO, spot on! I wouldn't let that gorgeous hunk of glass out of my sight for one second.
  105. nldionne nldionne, 2 months ago
    I trust your advice.
  106. RussTenale RussTenale, 2 months ago
    Oh, today I am mixing it up, I found an old tree stump to sit on.
  107. nldionne nldionne, 2 months ago
    Tree stumps are good:)
  108. nldionne nldionne, 2 months ago
    GSO, thanks so much for following the progress on this. I really appreciate everyone who had taken the time to help me with this.
  109. RussTenale RussTenale, 2 months ago
    @ Belling68

    Oh no, is that a bad thing?
  110. nldionne nldionne, 2 months ago
    Thank you Bellin . I have told him that before too. I love Eye!
  111. TallCakes TallCakes, 2 months ago
    reminds me of some of the cut-to-clear St Louis crystal pieces, tho' I think those are typically marked
  112. nldionne nldionne, 2 months ago
    Oh noooooooo:)
  113. Eye4Beauty Eye4Beauty, 2 months ago
    Will someone solve this already? :)
  114. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 2 months ago
    There are really times when it's ok to be, ok.. this is close enough. we'll call it this :)

    if something else comes along later.. that's great.. but in the mean time the factory said it looked very likely to be one of theirs. That's solid for attribution purposes.
  115. nldionne nldionne, 2 months ago
    I asked them what they needed for expert and they said the picture I sent was enough. Since we all know my photo skills I am thinking it is one of theirs they just want payment to authenticate. My husband wants the documentation one way or the other so I will let you know outcome. May take a few weeks. Thanks for your interest and your willingness to help.
  116. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 2 months ago
    what do you need the documentation for?
  117. nldionne nldionne, 2 months ago
    Don't know. My husband wants it. Maybe he is thinking about selling it to pay for my pottery addiction:)
  118. nldionne nldionne, 2 months ago
    Thanks Musikchoo
  119. nldionne nldionne, 2 months ago
    Thanks Manikin
  120. nldionne nldionne, 2 months ago
    Thanks Eye
  121. Eye4Beauty Eye4Beauty, 2 months ago
    Auction this weekend?
  122. nldionne nldionne, 2 months ago
    Nope, putting a new shelf together:)
  123. Eye4Beauty Eye4Beauty, 2 months ago
    Will it support 35 pieces of pottery?
  124. nldionne nldionne, 2 months ago
    Plus some:)
  125. Eye4Beauty Eye4Beauty, 2 months ago
    Yep, I loved it again :)
  126. Eye4Beauty Eye4Beauty, 2 months ago
    Who? What?
  127. nldionne nldionne, 1 month ago
    Good morning my virtual friend!
  128. Eye4Beauty Eye4Beauty, 1 month ago
    Morning ... Looking for an umbrella stand ...
  129. nldionne nldionne, 1 month ago
    What kind of umbrella stand, you looking for someone else or you?
  130. Eye4Beauty Eye4Beauty, 1 month ago
    For my mother in law ... Will also be used to hold canes ...
  131. nldionne nldionne, 1 month ago
    LOL!!!!!!!!
  132. nldionne nldionne, 1 month ago
    You are a glutton for punishment!
  133. Eye4Beauty Eye4Beauty, 1 month ago
    bring it ...
  134. nldionne nldionne, 1 month ago
    Thanks Eye
  135. nldionne nldionne, 1 month ago
    Thanks Jack
  136. nldionne nldionne, 29 days ago
    Good Morning, how are you?
  137. Eye4Beauty Eye4Beauty, 29 days ago
    fine ... how's yourself?
  138. nldionne nldionne, 29 days ago
    Thanks Moonstone
  139. Eye4Beauty Eye4Beauty, 28 days ago
    Do you know the potter who signs the name Wood ?
  140. nldionne nldionne, 28 days ago
    Nope not off hand. Vase?
  141. nldionne nldionne, 28 days ago
    http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=400152720936&cmd=VIDESC

    Majolica signed wood
  142. Eye4Beauty Eye4Beauty, 28 days ago
    no that's not it, but thanks ... mine is a glazed, dripped lidded jar, signed Wood to the side.
  143. Eye4Beauty Eye4Beauty, 25 days ago
    First cup ...
  144. Eye4Beauty Eye4Beauty, 25 days ago
    Second cup ...
  145. nldionne nldionne, 25 days ago
    Good Morning. Second pot!
  146. Eye4Beauty Eye4Beauty, 25 days ago
    Wow ... Are you sharing, or that's all you?
  147. nldionne nldionne, 25 days ago
    All me, just switched to tea.
  148. nldionne nldionne, 23 days ago
    Yippeeeee, mystery solved finally. Thank you GSO, Bellin and Tallcakes. Special thanks to my super sleuth friend Eye4beauty who never gave up on this. And they identified for free. Another great surprise
  149. Eye4Beauty Eye4Beauty, 23 days ago
    SWEET!!!!!!!!!!!!
  150. nldionne nldionne, 23 days ago
    Thanks for pushing! We knew what it was just couldn't find it.
  151. Eye4Beauty Eye4Beauty, 23 days ago
    wonder if they can send you a reference picture ...
  152. Eye4Beauty Eye4Beauty, 23 days ago
    http://www.mallettantiques.com/Public/Stock/View.aspx?ref=O3A0097
  153. Eye4Beauty Eye4Beauty, 23 days ago
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/CRYSTAL-VAL-SAINT-LAMBERT-ART-DECO-VASE-CA-1930S-/330374616242
  154. Eye4Beauty Eye4Beauty, 23 days ago
    http://www.proantic.com/en/display.php?mode=obj&id=36272
  155. nldionne nldionne, 23 days ago
    Don't know, I hate to push since they gave me this much for nothing. Let me think about that.
  156. Eye4Beauty Eye4Beauty, 23 days ago
    oh , no ... isn't this solved?
  157. nldionne nldionne, 23 days ago
    Yes it is my friend. You know they only made one of these, has to be we looked for another one for 4-5 months:)
  158. Eye4Beauty Eye4Beauty, 23 days ago
    no, i was kidding about the picture from them :) If it looks like a duck and quacks ...
  159. nldionne nldionne, 22 days ago
    Wasn't about the value. Just had to find out who made it. Don't really know why, maybe because it was what brought me to CW. It was my first post.
  160. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 22 days ago
    congrats on a final answer!

    what was that about sunflower vase. I just reread this whole thread. I was super big into pottery in the 90's. Definitely rusty on it but I do know my roseville and weller. It's mostly in boxes now except for a few select pieces. Some Roseville was radioactive. I never knew. I thought it was just fiesta, but nearly all the potteries worked with uranium salts.
    We're starting on the garage soon both to clear it out (haven't seen the stuff in boxes down there since we moved here four years ago) and to get ready for a garage sale. Most of my pottery is boxed up for the day when values make a comeback. I paid more than it's worth now mostly (but less than it was going for at the time, thank goodness!) I also have a fair amount of 50's and 60's MCM and Mod glass I picked up in the days when I did a lot of thrifting. I may end up posting it here since a lot of people here seem to know that glass and for the most part I haven't a clue about it.
  161. nldionne nldionne, 22 days ago
    Thanks GSO. I appreciate the help you gave me. Would love to see your Roseville. That's what I enjoy collecting the most. I may have mentioned a sunflower piece coming to auction. I don't have that pattern. I love all pottery and even though most McCoy isn't very valuable I enjoy finding those pieces that are. The value of my stuff is secondary to what I like. Thanks again for all of your help, love picking up things just don't know what a lot if it is. That's why I love this site so much, the knowledge people share is priceless.
  162. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 22 days ago
    yeah mine aren't in storage because of value., it's because I don't love them anymore. to be honest I am not even sure that I can honestly say I like them now. I would sell them but I don't have to and I do think value will come back some day. I have the ones out that I still like. (and one giant magnolia piece that I don't like but it's giant, so it makes more sense just to keep it by the door to hold junk mail. LOL. )
    space limitations and all, I love art glass so much more.

    here are some links to what I have on my website. It's pretty unfinished my inventory was only what I had upstairs in boxes.

    http://www.thegildedcurio.com/tag-Pottery.html
    http://www.thegildedcurio.com/tag-Roseville.html
    only one pic in the weller section right now LOL

    http://www.thegildedcurio.com/tag-Weller.html

    I do still love the standard pieces. those were always my favorite across the board with Roseville, Weller, Rookwood, owens and Mccoy. Roseville midline is also great. I have almost no rookwood but that stuff is gorgeous thru and thru.
  163. nldionne nldionne, 21 days ago
    Thanks GSO. I agree on the magnolia not the prettiest of pieces. It's hard for me not to start on glass since I see so many beautiful pieces every day on CW I'll look at your links over coffee. Have a great day!
  164. nldionne nldionne, 21 days ago
    I'm drooling:). I wondered what Bellin was talking about a kitten:). Thanks for sharing GSO!
  165. Eye4Beauty Eye4Beauty, 21 days ago
    Morning ...
  166. nldionne nldionne, 21 days ago
    Good morning to you my friend

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