Posted 5 months ago
nldionne
(227 items)
This weighs about seven pounds and is possibly from Europe . Looks like bunches of circles inside. Any ideas?
Please find enclosed the expertise of your piece.
Description : vase in cased crystal : clear/green Décor : large
pastilles who increase and cut with biseaux.
Technique : The piece is cased and blown in an iron mould. The cutting
is realized with a diamond wheel.
Date : it is a vase of the 1930's, like a "Sion". The cutting is also
representative for the Art Déco style.
Estimation : 450 euro.
Kind regards
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thanks, I love it too
The usual suspects are Belgium and Czechoslovakia; but both Russia and France are possibilities. No marks at all? Palda, Egermann and Gus-Khrustalny are some possible names for further research. There many others. Look for marks of Moser, Baccarat and Val St Lambert. Nice vase!
Thanks for the info. Mother-in-law was from Belgium and it has been around since all can remember. I was leaning toward Val St Lambert but I know nothing at all about glass. There are no marks so it may remain a mystery forever. You are wonderful, Thanks!!!
thanks to all who love this
Any new eyes out there that may recognize this? Have looked forever for it with no luck.
Love it!!!!
You need Tall Cakes. He da man.
Hey, how are you?
Have you checked out the seeing machine battle going on?
I'd have to agree with your European assessment on this one. I'm a student of EAPG so that would be mostly a guess.
Thanks for looking tallcakes!
This one eye, sorry
Eye there are no markings that I can find. Good morning!
http://www.rubylane.com/item/470599-3607/c-1930s-40s-Val-St
Do you think I'm getting close?
No I haven't seen, will look!
I see a resemblance. Sent request to company but did not have option for picture. Don't know if they will get back to me.
this is as clear as it is going to get. rim of bottom is scruffy not chipped but not smoothe.
Thanks sweetie!
that one is close too isnt it. dont waste your whole day on this Eye.
http://www.eliseabramsantiques.com/glass/vases-tazzas-compotes/val-st-lambert-eggplant-overlay-cut-clear-art-deco-vase
check out the shape of this one.
Our brain is getting stunned trying to find it
What the hell is a loupe?
The edge on the bottom is scratchy . It looks exactly the same shape as link in #26
Thought I found it on yahoo images till I recognized my coffee table. Hate when that happens!
Can't see bottom where is scratchy but can't find anywhere
Ohhhhhh
It is very worn, is there any way to buff it or something to see if anything is under there?
Okay I'm off to get a loube. Do you know my auto correct thinks loube is olive.
Thanks don't care if it is st lambert just want to know who made it. Thanks for your time.
I didn't buy this it was my mother in laws. Just trying to get history.
Hi Bellin.. there is a lot of unsigned VSL out there. they used paper labels.
to the best of my knowledge VSL was not always signed even after then. Nothing I've read from any of the scholars on this topic has ever implied that.
I am not saying this particular piece is or is not VSL.. but they were not always signed.
Thanks for the info greatsnowyowl, much appreciated.
Thanks for the loves everyone.
No of course not.
Oh sweet Bellin, you could never upset me in anyway!
Are you in the netherlands nldionne or was this bought in the belgium?
If so it's very unlikely that this is American.
It was my mother in laws, she came from Belgium.
I caught that SHE came from belgium but is there evidence that she had this prior to coming to the states or was she still in belgium when this was brought out of her estate.
She brought it to USA from Belgium when she married my husbands father in early 40's during war.
At this point I have no idea! I'll keep looking since my husband wants to know but I release you oh mighty one:)
Thanks, needed a good laugh this morning. Oh I bought a loube for next time.
Thanks Bellin but I am not sure what it is yet but I will keep looking until I'm sure. Good morning darlin
Nope not yet, isn't available on iPhone have to crank up my PC.
thank you for the video
Nancy
The Roseville sunflower? Don't know just wanted to check most roseville small bowls don't run much but evidently sunflower is very collectible or something. On eBay every piece I saw was running a lot higher than similar piece with different pattern. May want to reconsider or hold off to research.
LOL. Is emerald green, sorry:)
Eye, this vase doesn't exist. I have looked at every vase on the web I think. Moser, baccarat, st lambert, bohemian, Czech, it does not exist...
Okay, you are right!
http://www.glas-musterbuch.de/Val-Saint-Lambert.48.0.html
there is a pattern that is shown in bowl form that is very similar to this pattern in the 1947 catalog. it's called yalta or yalla. not sure which. the undated catalog also had an example with round cut outs like this has as main ornamentation.
Thanks so much GSO! This is driving me insane but every time I start to give up I get another clue as to who to look at. Eye4Beauty is an excellent researcher so maybe someday if we don't go blind by then from staring at a computer screen we may find it. Thanks again.
You are correct there are a bunch of great people with so much expertise and I thank them all.
But do not sell yourself short either my friend:)
GSO I think you're right it really looks close. I was at a get together for my great niece she is leaving Monday to go onto the army so didn't have a chance to check this out. I really appreciate you taking the time to find this site. You are wonderful!!!
You just can't let it go can you:)
It's a good site to keep bookmarked. they have a lot of great catalogs there. It's been very useful over the years.
I have, thanks for sharing.
Oh so true!
Think I may break down and buy a catalogue or something since we can't find on web anywhere.
Good morning. Have been busy playing mom. Found 5 baby kittens 1 day old a few days ago only one made it so he/she is now living with me. We have made it through 3 nights so odds are getting better. Did you see comment from vintage robot on hullow post?
Thanks Epson, I know why I'm up this early but I'm eastern. I have found that a lot of CW'rs are very early risers or insomniacs:)
your most welcome -- good morning to you also -- i'm northwester -- insomniac here
Thanks MDantiques
:) :) :) ;) back atcha
Miss you
Thanks TR
Thanks Antiq-lover
Thanks Musikchoo sorry I missed you.
awww I just saw this. so sad about the baby kitties. did teh one living baby make it?
Thanks GSO. Yes the one I have been nursing is thriving. I had many people asking about him so i posted a picture. His name is Gumption for his will to fight. He is pictured in a little pottery bowl and should be close to top of 1st page since I just responded to a comment on him. I am being told that it is an inappropriate post so it may be taken down, thanks for asking! Have a great day.
Excuse my thought. 3 months and no one here can help?
We worked on it for a long time just can't find it. Greatsnowyowl found a pattern yalla or something like that from val st lambert. Eye4beauty worked on this forever but all his comments left when he did.
Ok, all his work was erased?
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=WlDo-T5rHLk&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DWlDo-T5rHLk
what happened with Eye? I just now put it together that they left? :(
Didn't ask, I figured if he wanted me to know he would tell me. He is missed. Excellent CW detective;)
that's really a pity. Hopefully he comes back!
I know GSO. I really miss his sense of humor. He really made my day.
He did not know comments would be erased from my posts.
Thanks Russ
A million thoughts.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dark-EMERALD-GREEN-Vase-CUT-TO-CLEAR-CRYSTAL-Nachtmann-BAMBERG-Germany-/390395041850
There's not another one like it in the world or at least on http://WWW. For days and weeks we looked at every cut to clear vase there is with no luck. That's why this has been a mystery for so long:)
We can try
http://www.1stdibs.com/furniture/more-furniture-collectibles/vases/red-overlay-vase/id-f_584409/
Look at the star base on this one.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ART-DECO-RUBY-RED-CUT-CRYSTAL-VASE-VAL-ST-LAMBERT-BY-JOSEPH-SIMON-BELGIUM-/171015007939?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27d149eec3
I sent another request to val st lambert site to find if theirs. They seem to be the closest I can come. Hopefully they will respond. They requested picture a while back. The circle affect on this one is same as on mine.
This is exact shape and size different cut
http://www.eliseabramsantiques.com/glass/vases-tazzas-compotes/val-st-lambert-eggplant-overlay-cut-clear-art-deco-vase
Oh my, this is screaming VSL for sure. I was going to suggest getting a picture to them.
Seems like someone took a piece of this one and another piece of that one and put together my vase.
Exactly. I am seeing influences all over from other pieces. A collaboration maybe?
That's what we thought. But it could be anybody's. Along with all the other clues my mother in law brought it from Belgium when she came to USA during war.
We need good pattern books to look through. Archives.
http://www.eliseabramsantiques.com/glass/vases-tazzas-compotes/val-st-lambert-eggplant-overlay-cut-clear-art-deco-vase
Comment #69 is a link to some old catalogue that greatsnowyowl sent me.
Look at the 16th one down here.
http://www.kilshaws.com/specialty_items.php?archive=past&category=Crystal%20%26%20Glass
Go sit on a rock, I sent you that one 38 minutes ago:)
And another piece of my vase:)
Is really strange isn't it? Or is it just me?
I'm going there now.
Sorry, I was just thinking out loud here.
Thanks for taking an interest in this Russ.
Russ, Good Morning. Got response from site Val St Lambert. They say it appears to be Val St Lambert but they do not have this vase on file. Want to send to expert for 90 Euros. It will be worth it to me to find out one way or another. I would like to get answer for Eye since he worked so hard on this. Hope it's a good thing if it is theirs and they don't have one:) thanks for your help on this. Maybe we will have answer soon.
Excuse my enthusiasium. Sweet! Be cautious though. You have stated before that it wasn't important to you the maker , so 117 bucks. Trust me, eye would not want you to waste money.
You may be right. It's just that we have worked so hard on this.
And that last thought is between you and me only:)
Thanks for a good laugh on this rainy day!
What comment it seems to have disappeared:)
Love delete buttons
They want you to ship it to them? and it will cost 90 euros? I think you are as solid as you're going to be on an attribution here. If they say it appears to be theirs I'd run with it. I wouldn't ship it to them. Odds are of something happening to it and whatnot..
Love mysteries.
GSO, spot on! I wouldn't let that gorgeous hunk of glass out of my sight for one second.
I trust your advice.
Oh, today I am mixing it up, I found an old tree stump to sit on.
Tree stumps are good:)
GSO, thanks so much for following the progress on this. I really appreciate everyone who had taken the time to help me with this.
@ Belling68
Oh no, is that a bad thing?
Thank you Bellin . I have told him that before too. I love Eye!
reminds me of some of the cut-to-clear St Louis crystal pieces, tho' I think those are typically marked
Oh noooooooo:)
Will someone solve this already? :)
There are really times when it's ok to be, ok.. this is close enough. we'll call it this :)
if something else comes along later.. that's great.. but in the mean time the factory said it looked very likely to be one of theirs. That's solid for attribution purposes.
I asked them what they needed for expert and they said the picture I sent was enough. Since we all know my photo skills I am thinking it is one of theirs they just want payment to authenticate. My husband wants the documentation one way or the other so I will let you know outcome. May take a few weeks. Thanks for your interest and your willingness to help.
what do you need the documentation for?
Don't know. My husband wants it. Maybe he is thinking about selling it to pay for my pottery addiction:)
Thanks Musikchoo
Thanks Manikin
Thanks Eye
Auction this weekend?
Nope, putting a new shelf together:)
Will it support 35 pieces of pottery?
Plus some:)
Yep, I loved it again :)
Who? What?
Good morning my virtual friend!
Morning ... Looking for an umbrella stand ...
What kind of umbrella stand, you looking for someone else or you?
For my mother in law ... Will also be used to hold canes ...
LOL!!!!!!!!
You are a glutton for punishment!
bring it ...
Thanks Eye
Thanks Jack
Good Morning, how are you?
fine ... how's yourself?
Thanks Moonstone
Do you know the potter who signs the name Wood ?
Nope not off hand. Vase?
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=400152720936&cmd=VIDESC
Majolica signed wood
no that's not it, but thanks ... mine is a glazed, dripped lidded jar, signed Wood to the side.
First cup ...
Second cup ...
Good Morning. Second pot!
Wow ... Are you sharing, or that's all you?
All me, just switched to tea.
Yippeeeee, mystery solved finally. Thank you GSO, Bellin and Tallcakes. Special thanks to my super sleuth friend Eye4beauty who never gave up on this. And they identified for free. Another great surprise
SWEET!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for pushing! We knew what it was just couldn't find it.
wonder if they can send you a reference picture ...
http://www.mallettantiques.com/Public/Stock/View.aspx?ref=O3A0097
http://www.ebay.com/itm/CRYSTAL-VAL-SAINT-LAMBERT-ART-DECO-VASE-CA-1930S-/330374616242
http://www.proantic.com/en/display.php?mode=obj&id=36272
Don't know, I hate to push since they gave me this much for nothing. Let me think about that.
oh , no ... isn't this solved?
Yes it is my friend. You know they only made one of these, has to be we looked for another one for 4-5 months:)
no, i was kidding about the picture from them :) If it looks like a duck and quacks ...
Wasn't about the value. Just had to find out who made it. Don't really know why, maybe because it was what brought me to CW. It was my first post.
congrats on a final answer!
what was that about sunflower vase. I just reread this whole thread. I was super big into pottery in the 90's. Definitely rusty on it but I do know my roseville and weller. It's mostly in boxes now except for a few select pieces. Some Roseville was radioactive. I never knew. I thought it was just fiesta, but nearly all the potteries worked with uranium salts.
We're starting on the garage soon both to clear it out (haven't seen the stuff in boxes down there since we moved here four years ago) and to get ready for a garage sale. Most of my pottery is boxed up for the day when values make a comeback. I paid more than it's worth now mostly (but less than it was going for at the time, thank goodness!) I also have a fair amount of 50's and 60's MCM and Mod glass I picked up in the days when I did a lot of thrifting. I may end up posting it here since a lot of people here seem to know that glass and for the most part I haven't a clue about it.
Thanks GSO. I appreciate the help you gave me. Would love to see your Roseville. That's what I enjoy collecting the most. I may have mentioned a sunflower piece coming to auction. I don't have that pattern. I love all pottery and even though most McCoy isn't very valuable I enjoy finding those pieces that are. The value of my stuff is secondary to what I like. Thanks again for all of your help, love picking up things just don't know what a lot if it is. That's why I love this site so much, the knowledge people share is priceless.
yeah mine aren't in storage because of value., it's because I don't love them anymore. to be honest I am not even sure that I can honestly say I like them now. I would sell them but I don't have to and I do think value will come back some day. I have the ones out that I still like. (and one giant magnolia piece that I don't like but it's giant, so it makes more sense just to keep it by the door to hold junk mail. LOL. )
space limitations and all, I love art glass so much more.
here are some links to what I have on my website. It's pretty unfinished my inventory was only what I had upstairs in boxes.
http://www.thegildedcurio.com/tag-Pottery.html
http://www.thegildedcurio.com/tag-Roseville.html
only one pic in the weller section right now LOL
http://www.thegildedcurio.com/tag-Weller.html
I do still love the standard pieces. those were always my favorite across the board with Roseville, Weller, Rookwood, owens and Mccoy. Roseville midline is also great. I have almost no rookwood but that stuff is gorgeous thru and thru.
Thanks GSO. I agree on the magnolia not the prettiest of pieces. It's hard for me not to start on glass since I see so many beautiful pieces every day on CW I'll look at your links over coffee. Have a great day!
I'm drooling:). I wondered what Bellin was talking about a kitten:). Thanks for sharing GSO!
Morning ...
Good morning to you my friend