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Posted 2 years ago

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Rafael
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I'm not sure again but these are in beautiful condition. Anyone have any idea ? doesn't say much about them on the frame or bottom.

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  1. MawamaMama MawamaMama, 2 years ago
    Not sure about the one in the back, can't see it well enough, but the box in the front appears to be teak with inlaid ivory (not sure which kind) from India, and the Hoshiarpur District, most likely.

    It's also hard to tell how old it is as they tend to repeat patterning. I have one that could be its twin that I purchased there in the early 80's but yours could be earlier or later.
  2. scottvez scottvez, 2 years ago
    Middle East souvenir item. I believe that they are made in Syria (not 100% certain). I have several that I purchased in KSA within the last 10 years.

    scott
  3. Rafael Rafael, 2 years ago
    Thank you mama& scott I am please to know what these are. They are heavy for such a small box.
  4. MawamaMama MawamaMama, 2 years ago
    No, while it does resemble Persian Khatam work, it is definitely Indian. The basics are the same, both are inlay techniques and both favor geometric patterns, but if you compare the two side by side you will recognize the differences. One important one being that Indian inlay is seldom coated/held together by a glaze so it does not have the typical shiny appearance of the tourist grade Khatam.

    My husband is Persian (off the boat) and we have some pieces of the finer, antique Khatam in our home but I have lived in India so I am familiar with their crafts too. (I prefer the Indian inlay work to the Khatam but don't tell my husband.)

    One thing to be aware of is that the newer pieces make use of faux ivory. If you do plan to sell it, best figure out whether yours is real or not first.
  5. Rafael Rafael, 2 years ago
    Thanks again Mama. I have these things that my good ole buddy left for me. Bless his heart. I would love to find new owners who cherrish these things I have.
  6. MawamaMama MawamaMama, 2 years ago
    Hey, did you change your photos? Because the box shown above is not the one I described as Indian. This one could be Persian.
  7. Rafael Rafael, 2 years ago
    I did change the picture. I ment to put them together.
  8. scottvez scottvez, 2 years ago
    They are sold in KSA as being from Syria.

    I just looked at one of the boxes I have and it is very similar.

    Here is an ebay example:

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Inlaid-Syrian-Box-/330859968740?pt=Antiques_Decorative_Arts&hash=item4d08ca78e4

    scott
  9. Rafael Rafael, 2 years ago
    Yes it does have the same look. Thanks.
  10. MawamaMama MawamaMama, 2 years ago
    The "same look" means nothing when it comes to attribution. The box in your (now restored ) first photo is still definitely Indian.

    Adding or changing photos after people have taken the time to comment is rather rude and confusing.
  11. MawamaMama MawamaMama, 2 years ago
    Using eBay listings as information sources can be problematic as many sellers are using previous eBay listings as their sources and
    this can lead to a vicious cycle of misinformation.

    That being said:

    http://www.trocadero.com/sindler/items/1075982/en1.html

    http://www.guillermina.com/items/1096434/item1096434orientalarts.html
  12. Rafael Rafael, 2 years ago
    Really mama? Sometimes mistake happen on the computer. S(oo sorry
  13. scottvez scottvez, 2 years ago
    If the "same look" means nothing when it comes to attribution, HOW exactly are you (mama) making your attribution?

    Rafael-- just trying to help you out! As I said I have similar boxes (closest to your box in photo #3). I bought them in KSA and the seller represented them as made in Syria. He had nothing to gain by misrepresenting them. This type of tourist sale work was/ is popular in Syria.

    Do an ebay search for "syrian box" and you will find numerous examples out there.

    I would think that this type of work is likely done in other countries as well.

    scott


  14. scottvez scottvez, 2 years ago
    link to company in Syria that exports this type of box:

    http://syriangate.com/mosaic%20wood/case.htm
  15. Rafael Rafael, 2 years ago
    Cool Scott thanks for the help. I like when a person like yourself can help me rather the blow it because of new age typos.lol. I will look again. Ebay,craigslist,here... Whatever...
  16. scottvez scottvez, 2 years ago
    Good luck with the investigation. If your research points toward a definite attribution on your box, pls update us!

    scott

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