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    Posted 11 years ago

    wildman_2
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    does anybody have any info on this i found it in the ground cleaned it up it has 75 on the cannon barrel could it be 1775 1875 its brass with the copper insert flying lady like on the ship and the other side has two crossed flags with a cannon

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    1. blunderbuss2 blunderbuss2, 11 years ago
      pics to fuzzy to see well but that probably be for 75 m/m & point maybe to French and WWI.
    2. wildman_2, 11 years ago
      the cannon is almostthe same as a 3 inch ordinance civil war era type cannon i cant seem to get a clear picture with my camera but will try to find someone with a better picture camera
    3. blunderbuss2 blunderbuss2, 11 years ago
      I have a 3" C.W. Ord. Rifle but still can't tell because of fuzz. By the way, 3" is 75 m/m. I'm thinking the famous French 75. Never heard of a C.W. lighter as matches were a fairly new innovation then. What would they have used for lighter fluid? Must be getting late. I just tried changing channels with a cell phone.
    4. scottvez scottvez, 11 years ago
      It is typically described as a WW1 trench art lighter. These were popular souvenir items during and after the War. There are many different sides that were used-- most military related or patriotic but some with scantly clad women.

      Do a search on ebay for "trench art lighter" and you will see many other examples.

      scott
    5. blunderbuss2 blunderbuss2, 11 years ago
      And scottvez strike again! Knew it had to refer to the French 75 but I have been wrong before, -- well once anyway. LOL
    6. wildman_2, 11 years ago
      thanks for the info i will have to research more i thought that matches were but i did a search and the lighter was in the u.s. by 1860s so thats what made me think civil war era and i also have been wrong before its still neat to find tho again thanks
    7. scottvez scottvez, 11 years ago
      Larger table top (and counter top) gas cigar lighters were around in the 19th century, but pocket "flint" lighters are a 20th century item.

      scott
    8. wildman_2, 11 years ago
      thank you very much i am learning didnt have a clue i cant seem to find a similar one like this its still a neat item
    9. scottvez scottvez, 11 years ago
      Did you check ebay (see comment #4)?

      Here are some examples:

      http://www.ebay.com/itm/ANTIQUE-FRENCH-WW-I-MILITARY-TRENCH-ART-CIGARETTE-LIGHTER-CIRCA-1914-1919-/330863054559?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d08f98edf

      http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-round-trench-art-lighter-WWI-WW1-nude-naked-lady-unusual-risque-EXC-/160956889276?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2579c738bc

      http://www.ebay.com/itm/1st-World-War-Trench-Art-Petrol-Lighter-e7247-626-/321061397839?pt=UK_Collectables_Militaria_LE&hash=item4ac0c0254f

      I have seen your exact style before.

      scott
    10. wildman_2, 11 years ago
      cool thanks a very lot now i am sure when it was made and found someone that has seen one other than just me as you know when you take an item to an antique dealer sometimes they missinform about items i did check ebay but i will go check again now that i have a date time frame of its orgin
    11. wildman_2, 11 years ago
      went to ebay as your link exact one except the center has the lady mine has the flying lady and cannons thanks again now i have an idea what and when it was made and mine is the same design lighter as the wick and flint go
    12. scottvez scottvez, 11 years ago
      Glad to help. Ebay is a great tool in determining the rarity of a particular item..

      Often folks post "rare" "one of a kind" items on here and a quick ebay search will reveal many of the same item being offered on ebay!

      Keywords are important when searching. "trench art lighter" will yield many results, and if you search ebay over the next month or so it is likely that your EXACT lighter will appear.

      scott
    13. scottvez scottvez, 11 years ago
      One caution about ebay. Many folks use it to value items as well.

      Ensure that you use "Completed Auctions/ Sales" to get an idea of values.

      Many folks see an item priced at a high amount (not sold at that amount) and then value their item at the inflated price.

      Remember sellers can ask ANY AMOUNT for their item-- the key is what the item or similar examples ACTUALLY SOLD FOR.

      scott

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