Posted 11 years ago
jericho
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For me proof about Welz glass is contained in this German book containing thousands of marks and signatures from glass factories all over Europe, It is Called the Glasmarken Lexikon.The second image has the marks for Welz. The third and fourth images contain Pieces with the marks from the book.
You may question the attribution and believe that many pieces with these marks are not Welz but Kralik or Ruckl or just Czechoslovakian export glass...but here is the evidence. You can believe it until more documents come to light, deny it and believe these are only marks of origin put on by distributors.
Buy the book here...
http://www.amazon.de/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=glasmarken&tag=googhydr08-21&index=stripbooks&hvadid=6977856171&hvpos=1o1&hvexid=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=236737035917297664&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=b&ref=pd_sl_7tugusz824_b
Special thanx to my homie - Craig
More Welz...http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/55640-franz-welz--powder-decors
No more info than that in the book, Jericho?
Google translates the German as:
the company manufactures colored hollow glass works for lightings, flower vases, flower baskets, tins and 'montierungsartikel'. That would be metal mounted wares.
vetraio50, That translation sounds like a description for Royal Art Glass, NY.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1925-Royal-Art-Glass-NYC-invoice-lamps-chandeliers-/370724808478?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item5650eba71e
Charcoal, thanx for the link.
Royal Art Glass: these vases are (in my mind) Bohemian and not American made, but a good theory might be that Royal may have applied the sticker and called them their own product, like the Erphila stamp. Maybe Royal art glass was owned by Welz? I have seen this Royal sticker on Welz and (what i believe) Ruckl, that said last pic...Welz
FWK: I'm not representing the case (or even looking for answers). the case was made by another collector, but the case is made. I have noticed this sticker says FWK = Franz Welz (name) Klostergrab. It is consistently only on cased glass pieces, in other words it was most likely put on one kind of glass either by manufacturer, importer or wholesale distributor. Collectors and dealers in the US and Germany commonly refer to this sticker as Kralik or Welz. to me Welz wins.
Lion Sticker: I have seen a very similar sticker on hand blown carnival glass types and I believe it to be Kralik. If anyone needs addition pics of marks please email me at Jerichohair@yahoo.com. I would be glad to share any pictures of marks
P.s. the "Made in Czechoslovakia" in a faint line is seen on Welz decor. If there are similarities in decor or shapes it must have been because both Welz and Kralik were closely associated both in business and Familial ties. I am not a researcher or expert but I do have a lot of experience in seeing, buying, collecting and sharing information with other collectors. It's an incomplete story and I can understand the frustration and reluctance to follow my pattern of thinking...
Royal art glass in the invoice is not the same as that sticker. They only sold lamps and parts. that is what they are listed for in the contemporary business listings as. they do not state they sell art glass and other items. and they are not listed with companies that do sell those things. There was another importer in New york with a similar name that still sells imported goods with a Royal Art glass label. They are more likely imho. But if glass marken lexicon states they sold under that label it's also possible that it was just the name of a particular line they sold and Nothing to do with either New York Company.
Homes, Booth, & Atwoods Manufacturing Company of Waterbury Conn became Plume and Atwood. Royal Lamp, aka Royal Art Glass, New York, got their brass lamp parts from Plume and Atwood Manufacturing Company of Waterbury Conn. P&A was a major patent holder and manufacturer of brass lamp parts. Lamps manufactured by P&A were marketed as Royal, Fostoria, Aladdin, Solar, Rochester, and many others.
http://www.thelampworks.com/lw_novelty_burner.htm
I agree royal sticker is probably applied in USA or Canada and not applied by maker, if anyone finds examples of pieces with that sticker please submit link
My previous comment and this one are to show that Royal Are Glass Co, NY aka Royal Lamps, didn't manufacture their own brass either. Their brass was made by P&A Manufacturing.
See page 214 on this link for additional information.
http://books.google.com/books?id=LwwWAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA214&lpg=PA214&dq=Plume+Atwood+History&source=bl&ots=bckEV1n-Iu&sig=1C0B82Mu6_nkTZ0f49etYWnEyiI&hl=en&sa=X&ei=GfsLUZHDH47V0gHu_4DIDQ&ved=0CEIQ6AEwAzgK#v=onepage&q=Plume%20Atwood%20History&f=false
GREAT information!
scott
That date in the Glasmarken Lexikon is very interesting!
Glasfabrik
Klostergrab, BOH
1728 -
I have an idea that it relates to the primary Welz glass hut.
Sabine Gäbel März (2007) says in "Auszüge aus dem Stammbaum der Glasindustriellen Familien Schreiber, Gerhardt, Göpfert, Welz und Kralik von Meyrswalden.":
"Welz besass die Glashütten Gutenbrunn in Oberösterreich und Klostergrab bei Teplitz und war über seine Frau Emilie mit Josef Riedel, Polaun, verwandt."
"Welz owned the Gutenbrunn glassworks in Upper Austria and those in Klostergrab near Teplitz and he was related through his wife Emilie with Josef Riedel - Poland."
http://www.pressglas-korrespondenz.de/aktuelles/pdf/pk-2007-2w-gaebel-schreiber-stammbaum.pdf
Gutenbrunn and Klostergrab were places where Franz Welz was active. Both of his children were born in Klostergrab aka Hrob. His wife Antonie Schreiber died in Gutenbrunn in July 1928.
As an explanation ....... in the quote above Sabine Gäbel März was talking about Franz Welz's father Alois Welz in that article.
I actually have come across a document in Czech which details that line of descent. I think you will find it interesting. I have been working on it for a couple of days. I came across a section of it six months ago. A few days ago I found out the full document.
Rather than Gutenbrunn, the German name it is about Dobra Voda.
This is the town.
The Welz family home.
http://www.pamatky-venkova.cz/cz/category/dobra-voda-49
The statue to Jan Zizka is important too!
This is the document I found some time ago.
It fills in some details about the Welz legacy in Dobra Voda or Gutenbrunn.
http://www.geocaching.com/geocache/GC16WT2_zizkova-studanka
This document traces the early stages of Gutenbrunn or Dobra Voda u Svetle n. Sazavou.
I have only done a third of what needs to be done.
Jan Jiri Hogl -1723.
The first of the Weltz's arrived in the area on December 23, 1794.
He was Vaclav Weltze (1743 - 1828).
He married a Kopp.
Another generation Václava Tomase Welze (1792 - 1867).
Then Tomase Alois (1821-1895).
The 't' in Weltz then disappeared to become Welz.
And so it goes.
There is also a copy of the "Welzuv patent" from the Kaiserlisches Patentamt.
Beware it is a memory of someone from the 'ghost town' of Dobra Voda.
I find it quite moving.
There is stuff within that I cannot vouch for. I have not totally read it all myself. I think it only appeared on the net earlier this year. But the detail of the Welz family is something I have not seen before. I knew of Vaclav Welz but the connections from German documents I have read were not as clear as these.
There is mention of glass produced for St Petersburg and Moscow.
The first ever use of lead glass.
The politics of the Welz family is explained.
They were land owners of great renown.
They thrived and then Gutenbrunn collapsed.
It was abandoned by Alois Welz in 1870 after he had built a new glass factory in Klostergrab aka Hrob. The property at Gutenbrunn was handed over to Frantisek his son.
There is much more....
I forgot to add the link:
http://www.lucice.cz/VismoOnline_ActionScripts/File.ashx?id_org=8828&id_dokumenty=21166
See what you think!