Posted 4 months ago
jericho
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For me proof about Welz glass is contained in this German book containing thousands of marks and signatures from glass factories all over Europe, It is Called the Glasmarken Lexikon.The second image has the marks for Welz. The third and fourth images contain Pieces with the marks from the book.
You may question the attribution and believe that many pieces with these marks are not Welz but Kralik or Ruckl or just Czechoslovakian export glass...but here is the evidence. You can believe it until more documents come to light, deny it and believe these are only marks of origin put on by distributors.
Buy the book here...
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Special thanx to my homie - Craig
More Welz...http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/55640-franz-welz--powder-decors
No more info than that in the book, Jericho?
Google translates the German as:
the company manufactures colored hollow glass works for lightings, flower vases, flower baskets, tins and 'montierungsartikel'. That would be metal mounted wares.
vetraio50, That translation sounds like a description for Royal Art Glass, NY.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1925-Royal-Art-Glass-NYC-invoice-lamps-chandeliers-/370724808478?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item5650eba71e
Charcoal, thanx for the link.
Royal Art Glass: these vases are (in my mind) Bohemian and not American made, but a good theory might be that Royal may have applied the sticker and called them their own product, like the Erphila stamp. Maybe Royal art glass was owned by Welz? I have seen this Royal sticker on Welz and (what i believe) Ruckl, that said last pic...Welz
FWK: I'm not representing the case (or even looking for answers). the case was made by another collector, but the case is made. I have noticed this sticker says FWK = Franz Welz (name) Klostergrab. It is consistently only on cased glass pieces, in other words it was most likely put on one kind of glass either by manufacturer, importer or wholesale distributor. Collectors and dealers in the US and Germany commonly refer to this sticker as Kralik or Welz. to me Welz wins.
Lion Sticker: I have seen a very similar sticker on hand blown carnival glass types and I believe it to be Kralik. If anyone needs addition pics of marks please email me at Jerichohair@yahoo.com. I would be glad to share any pictures of marks
P.s. the "Made in Czechoslovakia" in a faint line is seen on Welz decor. If there are similarities in decor or shapes it must have been because both Welz and Kralik were closely associated both in business and Familial ties. I am not a researcher or expert but I do have a lot of experience in seeing, buying, collecting and sharing information with other collectors. It's an incomplete story and I can understand the frustration and reluctance to follow my pattern of thinking...
Royal art glass in the invoice is not the same as that sticker. They only sold lamps and parts. that is what they are listed for in the contemporary business listings as. they do not state they sell art glass and other items. and they are not listed with companies that do sell those things. There was another importer in New york with a similar name that still sells imported goods with a Royal Art glass label. They are more likely imho. But if glass marken lexicon states they sold under that label it's also possible that it was just the name of a particular line they sold and Nothing to do with either New York Company.
I don't think it was sold as a glass line. As a possibility if it was, the Butler Brother Wholesale Catalogs would have advertised it. In the BB catalog, the Fan vase shape advertised is found in the decor that is shown above on the strutted vase is why I mention it. Also the fan vase was advertised in the BB from 1928-32 and there is no mention of Royal Art Glass.
The Royal Art Glass receipt from the link above stated "Novelties" as well. I also noticed the receipt stamped, Office and Sample room. I'm sure Royal Art Glass sold to other merchants as well as the public. For all we know the company "Royal Art Glass" from America added the label? Also, if Franz Welz added the paper label, would it be marketed to just English speaking countries? I believe this label has only been found in the USA. Can anyone confirm?
Just a thought to close.. Even Devilbiss perfume bottles and Clarkes Fairy Lamps just to name a few purchased from other glass manufactures, but sold under their own company name.
Homes, Booth, & Atwoods Manufacturing Company of Waterbury Conn became Plume and Atwood. Royal Lamp, aka Royal Art Glass, New York, got their brass lamp parts from Plume and Atwood Manufacturing Company of Waterbury Conn. P&A was a major patent holder and manufacturer of brass lamp parts. Lamps manufactured by P&A were marketed as Royal, Fostoria, Aladdin, Solar, Rochester, and many others.
http://www.thelampworks.com/lw_novelty_burner.htm
I agree royal sticker is probably applied in USA or Canada and not applied by maker, if anyone finds examples of pieces with that sticker please submit link
My previous comment and this one are to show that Royal Are Glass Co, NY aka Royal Lamps, didn't manufacture their own brass either. Their brass was made by P&A Manufacturing.
See page 214 on this link for additional information.
http://books.google.com/books?id=LwwWAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA214&lpg=PA214&dq=Plume+Atwood+History&source=bl&ots=bckEV1n-Iu&sig=1C0B82Mu6_nkTZ0f49etYWnEyiI&hl=en&sa=X&ei=GfsLUZHDH47V0gHu_4DIDQ&ved=0CEIQ6AEwAzgK#v=onepage&q=Plume%20Atwood%20History&f=false