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Posted 2 years ago

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jwendell222
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Horse drawn wagon is 20 inches long and six inches at the widest. No markings that I can find, and missing ladders and the two drivers. Everything is magnetic. I’d like to date this and identify the maker if possible. I’ve had it since about 1980 and it had the appearance of age then. Appreciate any help or comments. Thanks, Jim

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  1. blunderbuss2 blunderbuss2, 2 years ago
    There was an open police wagon on antiques road show tonite that had identical wheels etc. including the wheel under the horses that was quoted at a good price but I don't remember what it was. I would bet they are from the same manufacturer. Catch a re-run. Here, the re-run is on Sat. morning. PBS.
  2. Manikin Manikin, 2 years ago
    Very nice , I see some new screws shiny newer on horses , the seams are telling me possibly a repro but I am not a cast iron export and sometimes you need to hold item in hand to tell . There are some very good repro's on market . It well could be antique too ? Hoping someone else jumps in on this to solve dating it for you :-)
  3. blunderbuss2 blunderbuss2, 2 years ago
    Mani, if a repro, I would expect some attempt at making the obviously missing pieces. Well, I've been wrong once in my life. OK, maybe twice. Er, I don't want to talk about it!
  4. jwendell222, 2 years ago
    Hi Manikin and blunderbuss, thanks very much for your comments and observations. I agree with you Manikin, the seams aren't a good match and I've always felt that it was a repro, but a lot of looking on the net has not helped. Bottom line is, I don't know what an original should look like. As you both probably know, Asian and chess sets are more my thing. This is the only toy I have (sob). Best wishes to both of you, Jim
  5. Manikin Manikin, 2 years ago
    Blunder I think it could be true antique or repro I am on the fence :-) to hard to tell when not seen in person for me . You surely could be right . I see one very bright shiny screw on 3rd photo on horse wheel that was a flag to me to wonder . The split seams do happen for sure in true antique cast iron ??? Beats me . I guess jwendell we have you confused now . I know there are some toy experts on CW and maybe they can back up what myself and Blunder have commented . Oh Hi Blunder ! Hope all is well by you ,waving Hello .
  6. AzTom AzTom, 2 years ago
    No doubt in my mind, it's a repo, probably from the 1970's. Once you have handled and admired the real thing the repos become more obvious.
    Still a cool display piece.
  7. blunderbuss2 blunderbuss2, 2 years ago
    Why made in iron if repro.? Thought all repros were made in pot metal. I agree that it is probably a repro., but why go to the extra expense? Cast iron moves into an entirely diff. stage of casting. Strange that. Even a great % of originals were pot.
  8. jwendell222, 2 years ago
    Hi AzTom and blunderbuss, thanks for the latest comments. In looking at the horses, the mold matchup gives the impression that the halves weren't made to fit each other. Each half though, is well made. I wonder if they were made from a batch of randomly selected halves from an older production, maybe leftovers. Also, the front wheels have a drilled boss between two spokes as for a linkage, perhaps to cause the horses to move up and down when the wheels rolled. The horses do swivel, but I can find no corresponding fitting on the horses to accommodate such a linkage. From the comments I've gotten I'm really glad I posted this. Regards, Jim
  9. blunderbuss2 blunderbuss2, 2 years ago
    Tuned in Antiques Roadshow & caught the paddy wagon toy. The horses & attachments are exactly the same except that 1 only had 1 wheel. Check Happy Hooligan toys to see that 1 & others.
  10. Moonstonelover21 Moonstonelover21, 1 year ago
    Wow Cool Find!!!!
  11. PhilDavidAlexanderMorris PhilDavidAlexanderMorris, 1 year ago
    There are one or 2 in my fathers basement, but I think they may be 70's also, never really looked at them. A lot of new pieces were made in the 60's also. They make a lot of repros in iron I know, its something a person really has to examine in person to know.
  12. jwendell222, 1 year ago
    Hi, thanks again to all for the love, comments, and insight, Best wishes, Jim
  13. Imagemakerx2, 1 year ago
    I also have a set fire truck horses, ladder and people I will try to post images

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