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Posted 1 year ago


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"European Pair"
Swiss Watch & Belgium Pepperbox
Since there is not enough information to give on the pocket watch, I thought I would add the pepperbox as a companion.
The Watch:
There are no markings on the watch which I believe is of Swiss manufacture. It is a pendent wind, pin set (note pin on the rim case at the 1:00 position). Dial has gold minute marks and the hands are of the Louis XIV style. The case is not marked, so I don't believe it is coin or sterling. It is ornately engraved with a house and pine trees in the center of the back cover.
The Pepperbox:
This is a 7mm Pin-Fire, Belgium pre-1893 proof marked.
Front of frame is marked Deprez Bte.
Joseph Deprez manufactured firearms from 1874 through 1886.
It is a 6-shot, 7mm caliber, folding trigger, double action, with 1-7/8 inch cylinder/barrel. The overall length is 4-3/4 inches. It needs to be disassembled to load and eject cartridges.
Thanks for looking & I'll try to refrain from doing any more PW/Firearms combination post.


  1. pw-collector pw-collector, 1 year ago
    Thanks toolate2 & Poop for the appreciation.
  2. pw-collector pw-collector, 1 year ago
    Thanks mustangtony for the appreciation.
  3. pw-collector pw-collector, 1 year ago
    Thanks Kerry, geo26e & blunderbuss2 for the appreciation.
  4. blunderbuss2 blunderbuss2, 1 year ago
    Combos are fine. After admiring the gun, we can always go back & ck the other. First true pepperbox cartridge pistol I've ever seen and 1st double action folding trigger. Neat. The Belges have made beautiful weapons for centuries & still do.
  5. blunderbuss2 blunderbuss2, 1 year ago
    Oh, & thanks. I was having a bad day until I saw this.
  6. pw-collector pw-collector, 1 year ago
    I had you in mind when I decided to post this, thinking you might enjoy this particular piece. I'm glad it made your day brighter.
  7. pops52 pops52, 1 year ago
    Awesome Dave!
  8. blunderbuss2 blunderbuss2, 1 year ago
    So the doodad with the lever on it has to unscrew completely from the considibble in order for the rollicking-rod to come out & let the whatchamacallit fall out to load? This could well have been made/invented in the 1840's. This may have been the dread "assault weapon" of the day. Wonder if they made a "defense weapon" model?
  9. pw-collector pw-collector, 1 year ago
    Yes the doodad with the lever, attached to the rollicking-rod, is rotated counter-clockwise and pulled out in order to remove the whatchamacallit. It is also used to punch out the spent cartridges in order to reload.
    With all the talk here by politicians to remove all our high-capacity, rapid-fire firearms, I don't think I have much to fear here. If they do come after me, I at least can supply them with my own door they can put me behind.
    There are two "out-of-print" books on the pinfire arms that well covers the "pepperbox". "The Pinfire System" by Gene P. Smith & Chris C. Curtis and "Systeme Lefaucheux" by Chris C. Curtis. They note that the 7mm cartridge is the most suitable, since their popularity was that of concealability, although there are examples known in 5mm (too small for any effectiveness), 9mm, 12mm & 15mm which increased the physical size and more difficult to conceal. There are also examples of pinfire pepperboxes with 12 & 15 chambers. The second book shows examples of these.
    Thanks for the humorous comment,
  10. pw-collector pw-collector, 1 year ago
    Thanks rniederman, officialfuel, Longings, JayHow, Pops52 (thanks pops for the kind comment), kygurl32, walksoftly, gargoylcollector, mtg75, egreeley75 & sanhardin for the appreciation.
  11. pw-collector pw-collector, 1 year ago
    Thanks petey for the appreciation.
  12. pw-collector pw-collector, 1 year ago
    Thanks leighannrn for the appreciation.
  13. pw-collector pw-collector, 1 year ago
    Thanks Designer & chrissylovescats for the appreciation.
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  15. pw-collector pw-collector, 12 months ago
    Thanks sugargirl & pickrknows for the appreciation.

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