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Posted 11 months ago

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Budek
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Hello All,
I picked this up today, and though it may not appear to be very special, I was enchanted at the first glance of it.
It's 2+1/4" high by 2+1/2" long, and quite thin.
I think he may be a Turk, not especially heavy, so it may be tin? and not lead.
Striking me as all romantic, on the first of the Summery days.

Love to know more about him,
Thanks for any information, and for looking,
Tonino

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  1. vetraio50 vetraio50, 11 months ago
    Ciao Tonino! The horse has that Georgian, early Victorian look. Very nice figure!
  2. Budek Budek, 11 months ago
    Grazie, Kevin, for the look, love, and helpful comment
    Thank You nldionne, Moonstonelover, & Tony, for the much appreciated loves!
  3. vetraio50 vetraio50, 11 months ago
    "little Eilerts" or "tin flats" are terms I've seen for these two dimensional figures.

    The German term is 'Zinnfiguren' = tin figures.

    Interesting to me were some photos of some early tin flats by Pohlmann here:
    http://www.zinnfiguren-bleifiguren.com/firmengeschichten/Pohlmann_Drebing_Schwerin/pohlmann_drebing_schwerin_seite_2.htm

    The detail of the moulding on your Turk looks good to my eye.

    These early German ones are signed: "F. P." oder "F. Pohl." siginiert. later models from the same moulds are marked Christoph Drebing or CD when Drebing took over the firm.

    No marks on your Turk?
  4. vetraio50 vetraio50, 11 months ago
    Haffner Zinnfiguren & Heinrichsen of Nuernberg were other German makers but later. Yours looks better quality.
    Check out this site:
    http://www.zinnfigurenantike.ch/spielzeugfiguren_2.html
    They list:
    Charles Bergmann, Strassburg
    J. C. Allgeyer, Fürth
    T. Wegmann, Braunschweig
    J. Haffner, Fürth
  5. vetraio50 vetraio50, 11 months ago
    Look at the shapes of the bases mentioned here:
    http://www.zinnfiguren-bleifiguren.com/firmengeschichten/Allgeyer_Fürth/Allgeyer_Fürth.htm
  6. vetraio50 vetraio50, 11 months ago
    There's this too that is many pages long on J. Haffner, Fürth:
    http://www.zinnfiguren-bleifiguren.com/firmengeschichten/Haffner/haffner_seite_1.htm
  7. Budek Budek, 11 months ago
    Kevin,
    Thanks for the great leads,.....this little figure must be pretty old,( any guesses as to age?)
    I'll give him a good going over with the loupe when I go to bed, ( there's a very good light on the nightstand :)
    Looks like he may be German made, just knowing that is a big step, THANK YOU
    for all of your kindnesses,
    T
  8. vetraio50 vetraio50, 11 months ago
    The "J. C. Allgeyer, Fürth" looks promising! Cosa ne pensi?
  9. vetraio50 vetraio50, 11 months ago
    If it is by J. C. Allgeyer of Fürth then it would be pre-1897. As early as 1830.

    "Konrad Allgeyer stirbt am 21. April 1897 unverheiratet und ohne Nachkommen; die Offizin ist damit aufgelöst. Die Formen sind verschollen."

    The Turks/Ottomans have had long standing ties:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turks_in_Germany
  10. Budek Budek, 11 months ago
    Kevin ,
    You hit the nail on the head. There's a striking similarity with the J.C. Allgeyer figures on horseback, incredible!!!
    What a thrill looking through all of those pages.
    I take it that these figures were usually painted?,....glad that this one's not.
    Thanks for these fabulous links!, T
  11. Budek Budek, 11 months ago
    Also, very interesting about the German/Turk ties,
    always learning something from you, my friend.
  12. Budek Budek, 11 months ago
    Hello again, Kevin.
    I didn't find a definite mark on it, but did notice a triangle under one of the ears that doesn't look like a casting glitch and is only on one side,....perhaps that is some kind of a mark?
    I hope you're having a great day!, T
  13. Budek Budek, 11 months ago
    Thanks for the loves, Brat & PhilD!
  14. Budek Budek, 11 months ago
    Thanks for the love, Petey and Inky!
    I hope you're enjoying a terrific week!
  15. Budek Budek, 11 months ago
    Thank You all for the loves, much appreciated!
    I hope you're all having a wonderful week!

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