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    Posted 11 years ago

    kralik1928
    (202 items)

    This piece is a mystery, but i'mma get you sucka!
    The piece is 6 1/2" tall from France. The base looks like a button pontil but it is not... the button is just the end of the tube shape and the foot is made around it like a skirt. The piece is cut from the top with a 4-layer construction. The clamp used to crimp the base has a thorny edge (that created a trail of polka dots). The tube shape is formed in a mold (because vertical impressions are felt), the colors are Maroon, orange and pink confetti all in different sizes....lastly, the six lobes of the bulb do not correspond to the (pleat) pattern of the base glass, crazy!

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    1. MacArt MacArt, 11 years ago
      welz, very beautiful
    2. kralik1928 kralik1928, 11 years ago
      Welz it is
    3. kralik1928 kralik1928, 11 years ago
      i approached this with an open mind because the piece had similarities to Ruckl-pulled adventurine, and kralik confetti... but in the end it had too many things in common with Welz. the clincher is the foot tho...
    4. jagsrock95 jagsrock95, 11 years ago
      A very cool Piece Jericho....Love it!
    5. jagsrock95 jagsrock95, 11 years ago
      I would also say similar to this WELZ décor

      http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/80863-franz-welz-knuckle-vase
    6. welzebub welzebub, 7 years ago
      Sorry, but this piece is unmistakably Welz production. There are no known examples of this décor linked to any French company, although some did make a somewhat similar decor. But as we all know, close does not count.

      Jericho also has a pair of thorn vases which bear the Welz Royal Art Glass label, are in the same décor, and also have the same style of crimped foot, except in clear instead of black. Both feet also have 16 crimps with the same crimping tool marks. That same foot crimping and style is found on other known Welz production examples. This décor is also identified on quite a few examples of known Welz production.

      If it quacks like a duck, and walks like a duck, and and looks like a duck, it is actually a duck.
    7. scottvez scottvez, 7 years ago
      BEAUTIFUL Welz! Great decor in a great shape!

      scott
    8. welzebub welzebub, 7 years ago
      I own a variety of Welz pieces which are unique and currently would quality as single known examples. I can say the same about a handful of Kralik and Loetz examples I own. The fact that they are the only currently known examples does not change for a second who made them.

      I will not argue the point with you Lisa. It is my opinion, as an individual that in all probability knows more about Welz than any other single individual anywhere, that this is an example of Welz production. Your knowledge of Welz, at least to me, seems extremely limited. Think what you like. :-)
    9. welzebub welzebub, 7 years ago
      Maybe it was only done on the top, as an effort to do it on the bottom would be valuable only when one turned the vase over to see it. On the clear foot is shows from above also. On the black foot it would not. It is still the same tool, the same number of ribs, and most importantly, it is still a Welz décor on the vase itself.

      A huge number of examples of Welz production have ground and polished rims. None of which were ground after damage occurred.

      Finding differences on other known Welz pieces, does not mean that something is not Welz. It simply means that they did it differently on that design.

      As far as your knowledge of Welz is concerned I quote you in reference to a research article of mine published in April 2016 in "All About Glass" by the West Virginia Museum of American Glass. I find it hard to believe that in a mere 9 or 10 month span, you have gone from the following point of view to being well versed on the subject.

      "The Franz Welz glass history is full of inconsistencies, which Mr. Craig Orkney ignores, where he has built his own grouping of Czech glass which covers two important eras for this country, the early 20th century Bohemian decorative glass industry, and the post war Czechoslovakia glass industry. These have huge differences in the types of glass that was produced, who produced it, and who bought it. Mr. Orkney who has his own website, finds that putting all this country's decorative glass which spans a forty year period without dating it is appropriate. This is caused by the lack of information about Welz glass after 1920, as stated in the Truitt book Volume 1, COLLECTIBLE BOHEMIAN GLASS 1915-1945. Published 1995.

      There is no documentation that shows the FWK glass business after 1920 involved glass making. Glass plants were constantly upgraded and modified to accommodate the changes in the source of fuel used and the consequences this caused to the glass furnace and it's operations. We get information about a glass plant at the end of the 19th century. Then we get information about a massive number of decorative glass products, exported to the USA, during the 1920s, without any indication of where it was made and by whom. It leaves a lot of questions unanswered, and I feel this article was premature in it's statements and approach."

    10. welzebub welzebub, 7 years ago
      For anyone interested, there is an explanation of my logic behind the Welz attribution here:

      http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/216926-a-unique-tulip-form-vase-in-a-very-ident

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