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Moser Karlsbad crystal Vase ~1920 but the signature? - is it Hoffmann and WW?

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Posted 1 year ago

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claudia1971
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Bought this beautiful Vase a few weeks ago and love it!!!
It has Josef Hoffmann signature plus WW (Wiener Werkstätte). But I was told that this is not the common hoffmann signature :-(
Anyone who has seen this signature before? the crystal is Ludwig Moser Karlsbad!
32 cm high

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  1. Stillwater Stillwater, 1 year ago
    Do you think the signature was faked?
  2. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 1 year ago
    the WW also looks wrong
  3. claudia1971 claudia1971, 1 year ago
    I personally don't think it is a fake. Moser Karlsbad confirmed me that the vase is from 1920 made by them. I think maybe this was a special edition and those days the possibilities to keep fotos or sketches of every single product in an archive were less. I still believe that almost 100 years later we still find rare pieces which can show us that not everything was fabricated as mass model and production had more flexibility. Need an expert on this one and more access to diferent archives!!!
  4. Stillwater Stillwater, 1 year ago
    Yeah it definitely looks like a Moser piece, but I've never seen that signature before. It doesn't look choppy though, its looks pretty good.
  5. claudia1971 claudia1971, 1 year ago
    anyone who knows about an online archive for signatures?
  6. scottvez scottvez, 1 year ago
    Beautiful deep color.

    scott
  7. claudia1971 claudia1971, 1 year ago
    Thank you Scott!
  8. SEAN68 SEAN68, 1 year ago
    Stunning:)
  9. SEAN68 SEAN68, 1 year ago
    The info you have on your posting is true!!!
  10. SEAN68 SEAN68, 1 year ago
    I just confirmed for you!!!
  11. claudia1971 claudia1971, 1 year ago
    thank you Sean! But which info exactly do you mean?
  12. SEAN68 SEAN68, 1 year ago
    Your welcome Hoffmann and wiener and moser he did some work and I've seen other works this kind and signed as well:)
  13. SEAN68 SEAN68, 1 year ago
    Your Claudia!!!!!
  14. SEAN68 SEAN68, 1 year ago
    Typo on iPhone:))
  15. claudia1971 claudia1971, 1 year ago
    and may I ask where you have seen them Sean? any fotos? would be a great help because i contacted different places in Vienna and they tell me they don't know this kind of signature (and they should know...). :-(
  16. SEAN68 SEAN68, 1 year ago
    Past auction houses Sotheby's Christie's there were some or a small handfuls on eBay I saw last summer
  17. SEAN68 SEAN68, 1 year ago
    Liveauctioneers
  18. SEAN68 SEAN68, 1 year ago
    Try 1stdibs.com
  19. claudia1971 claudia1971, 1 year ago
    Thank you!!!
  20. SEAN68 SEAN68, 1 year ago
    Your very welcome Claudia !!!!!
  21. claudia1971 claudia1971, 1 year ago
    @Sean I looked up similar pics in some of the pages - most of them are not marked, which leads me again to the question why the Hoffmann and WW mark on my one looks so different. Ludwig Moser Karlsbad confirmed that the crystal was made by them, bu, I don't know anything about the mark this one has on it.
  22. SEAN68 SEAN68, 1 year ago
    https://www.google.com/search?q=josef+hoffmann+glass+vase&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=biLDUdqoDZTeyQGjmIGYCA&ved=0CDoQsAQ&biw=1600&bih=740


    I rather have one that is signed and they confirmed it ,Than one that wasn't signed. the mark is fine , things change after a while, markers marks always change.
  23. claudia1971 claudia1971, 1 year ago
    @Sean, thats exactly what I am thinking also! BUT as in Vienna they don't find pictures of this one in the archives they doubt that it is Hoffmann and WW. Moser Karlsbad didn't tell me anything about the mark.

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