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Franz Hermle Oak Case Mantle Clock / 130-070 #87 / Two Bell" Bim Bam" Strike / Circa 1987

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Posted 3 years ago


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Time for something different. I found this mantle clock at Volunteers of America today for 9 dollars. It had no name on it anywhere, not even the face where it usually is. The bezel is actually nailed to the solid oak case. Which are four 1" sections of oak glued together. It's 18 3/4" long 9" tall and 4" deep. There is no door, it's solid and heavy ! The only way to access the movement is to pry the nails out remove the hands and then the face. Someone had already tried and got two out with no damage. I gently removed the other two. Behind that was the movement screwed in place to a circle of plywood. I knew there should be a name and there was, it was Franz Hermle. I don't think this clock is very old. The info engraved on the movement is " 87, Franz Hermle ,Two (2) Jewels ,unadjusted ,Made in West Germany 130-070. There is also the number 0307 stamped in black on one of the movement supports. There was no key and the movement was loose from the mounting board. I tightened it back in place but I don't know if it runs. Need to find a key before I put it back together. Nailing the face back is rather permanent and I don't want to damage it. I'll probably get some tiny brass screws instead of the nails. There is already a bit of scuffing from the hands to the face. The little bells sound wonderful. Hope I can get it to run again !

Hermle Clock History
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Nearly one hundred years ago, Franz Hermle began manufacturing and selling mechanical clocks. In 1922, Franz Hermle founded the Franz Hermle Clock Company in Gosheim/Wuerttemberg, Germany. Within ten years the company became known as one of the most modern and efficient manufacturers of clock movements in the clock industry. Franz Hermle and his sons’ dedication weathered the effects of WWII and made Franz Hermle and Sohn, prosper while other companies capitulated.

The founder, Franz Hermle, died in 1953 and left a modern and prosperous operation to his sons Gebhard, Alfred, Hans and Heinrich Hermle. They have continued to build the company into a worldwide leader in the manufacturing of clocks, and mechanical clock movements.


  1. nldionne nldionne, 3 years ago
    Bruce99 usually checks in on clocks if you have any questions.
  2. mikelv85 mikelv85, 3 years ago
    He gave me a" love it" on my sunburst clock a while ago. I just need to find a key to see if can be wound or I'll have to have it repaired if it's over wound. Those springs are under a lot of tension. They will actually blow the movement to bits if you're not careful. Saw that on Restoration Roadshow on Ovation.
  3. nldionne nldionne, 3 years ago
    My husband collects clocks. Doesn't know much about the but he likes them:) he likes Seth Thomas.
  4. mikelv85 mikelv85, 3 years ago
    That's cool . My brother had a friend who lived across the street from us when we were kids. His dad collected clocks and old radios. I loved going there and hearing them all chime at once ! I traded him my grandmothers huge heavy leaded glass "art deco" lamp for one of his clocks. I don't have the clock anymore. I sold it. I sure wish I still had my grandmothers lamp though. Thought it was a good trade at the time. Don't think the clock would be worth as much as the lamp!
  5. nldionne nldionne, 3 years ago
    Will send you a few
  6. mikelv85 mikelv85, 3 years ago
    Well I know the date. I found a website on dating the movement . It's a two train movement (not the best however) If there is a number above Franz Hermle it's pre 1988. If there is a letter it's post 1988. So an A 1988 B 1989 and so forth to Y which is 2012.Don't know what they'll do when they run out of letters. I have an 87 so it's 1987 ! The bad news is this is not one of the old movements that last. After 10 years they have trouble with the pivot wear and main springs. Cheaper to replace tna repair according to the website. :(
  7. mikelv85 mikelv85, 3 years ago
    More info. The case is called a "Napoleon Hat" shape. I found my plain oak one online, but they are all sitting on a beveled molding base about 3/4" high. Mine doesn't look like it ever had anything else attached to the bottom though. It has some green felt protectors on it and the bottom is completely finished with no holes. So it must have always been that way.
  8. mikelv85 mikelv85, 3 years ago
    This is encouraging..... Not having a key to wind the movement I carefully took a pair of needle noise pliers to see if clock and chimes were wound. Yep, tight as a drum not even one more click. I found out how to trip the chime mechanism and it worked so nothing wrong with that portion. So now why isn't the clock portion working ?? It's very clean looking, but I had some clock oil from our grandfather clock. He's stopped working for some reason too. I very carefully oiled every gear pivot I could find and the little fly wheel (escapement not sure of the term) the one that ticks. It would move if I helped it along but then stop. So I held the whole movement in my hand and slowly rotated it back and forth and it began to tick ! It stopped a few more times but then gradually worked long and longer. I supported it level and upright on my desk and it's been ticking and chiming all night (8-10 hrs.) ! It's about three minutes slow,but there's an adjustment screw for that. Maybe it just needed a while for the oil to loosen things up. Still not sure if I should put it back in the case just yet, afraid it might quit. I'll let it run down. Not sure how long that is with this particular clock. Like I said very encouraging ! :)
  9. mikelv85 mikelv85, 3 years ago
    Thanks JayHow :) It's still ticking away. I think the chimes were out of sequence too. It should be four bells on the hour and two bells on the half. It was backwards. You have to trip the lever at the correct time and that should fix it. Would be harder to do in the case.
  10. mikelv85 mikelv85, 3 years ago
    Well the clock quit running this morning after about 15 hours. Looks like a weak main spring. It should run 8 days. The Hermle website says this is common problem with these clocks after 10 years if they're not oiled every 3 years. Parts and labor cost more than a new movement almost $200.00. They have some on Ebay maybe that's the best option, but I haven't given up yet !
  11. mikelv85 mikelv85, 2 years ago
    This little clock has been a tough customer. Just when I gave up after letting the movement sit on my desk for a month or so, it decides to run again. It has run for 15 hrs. initially, then 3 to 4 days after oiling, then stops, It should run 8 days. I finally got a key from Ebay so I wound it fully. It wouldn't start so I coaxed it a bit and it started. Put a couple more drops of clock oil on the two gears just under the flywheel /escapement (sorry not sure of the terms) and it began to tick steadily. As the excess oil ran down the movement I blotted it and it was tinged green ! Seems I found a spot that really needed cleaning and oil. It's been running 5 days now and still going strong ! Third times the charm hopefully :)

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