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Asian Art69 of 79Large Chinese Export Porcelain Famille Rose Punch Bowl /Hunting Scene Designs/Maybe 18th 19th Century"Update" Famille Rose "Hunting Scene" Punch Bowl / Qianlong Dynasty A.D. 1736-1795 YES REALLY !!
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Posted 1 year ago

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mikelv85
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This is getting a bit more interesting. I've heard back from one person on the Asian Art Forum saying "yes" it is indeed 18th century Chinese export porcelain made for the European market. I need to post more pictures but there is a twelve hour lag because they screen everything to prevent fraud and spam.Even with this precaution they've had trouble with someone called the "yahoo fraudster" giving fake assessments. I need to hear from a couple of others that ID'd my Imari plates because I know who they are and trust them. This particular person isn't using a "Yahoo" email but, I've never heard from him before, still it is encouraging. Even so, they have been known to disagree with one another over authenticity. So to this point, one thumbs up for the real deal !! -Mike-

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  1. vetraio50 vetraio50, 1 year ago
    That looks a little weird in photo 3 .... a restoration?
    But more power to you.
    Hasten slowly.
  2. mikelv85 mikelv85, 1 year ago
    I don't know what that is vetraio50 . That's what cautions me. The black mark is a deep scratch. The slightly yellowish area with the peeling edge is unusual. I've never seen that before. It blends in with the piece except where it's peeling/ chipping away. Maybe as you say an old attempt to touch up and repair. It's only on one part of the inside and doesn't extend into the picture. I'm really waiting to hear from Anthony Allen who looks at pieces on the Asian Art forum. He has written a book on porcelain and I believe he also lives in New Zealand. He is a very nice and helpful person and always answers my e-mails. Fingers crossed ! :)
  3. mikelv85 mikelv85, 1 year ago
    I've heard back from another person who I trust on the Asian Art forum. He thinks the chipping in the bowl's bottom was probably and old attempt at restoration by over painting and refiring the piece.The heat wasn't sufficient and it didn't bond well with the glaze and has begun to flake over the years. That might account for the slightly yellowish color to that area. I don't know what they were trying to repair as the piece is not cracked. Maybe a firing flaw in the finish or the scratch. It could even have been done by the original kiln it came from to salvage the piece. The mystery continues.
  4. vetraio50 vetraio50, 1 year ago
    I agree. It looked like an old restoration.
    There may have been a firing crack that did not appear until later in the pieces lfe. The discolouration within the line may have been covered in restoration. A sign that the piece was thought to be of importance at that stage a century(?) ago. That restoration is now discolouring.

    I'd just let it be!

    Thank you for the update!

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