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    Posted 7 years ago

    charcoal
    (18 items)

    Here are two cottage glass vases. The red one is from Antonin Rückl & Sons, Vcelnicka. Each has applied decorations in clear glass including spiral ruffled rigaree and a ruffled foot.

    The first vase is green and white honeycomb spatter and measures 8 inches tall. Second vase above is lined in red with an oxblood and white spatter decor. It measures 12-1/2 inches tall and was found with a manufacturers label which reads "A. Ruckl & Sons, Vcelnicka".

    Please follow this link to view the actual example with the manufacturers label:

    http://www.burchardgalleries.com/auctions/2012/feb1912/01images/l506.htm

    This Ruckl label design was registered in 1903 per the Glasmarken Lexicon.

    Please follow this link to view that same shape with an orange colored lining:

    http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=50562.0;attach=140690;image

    It is obvious that the vases shown above, especially photographed side by side, are two totally different shapes. Especially obvious considering one vase is 8 inches tall and the other is 12-1/2 inches tall. That is not how I feel they are related but through each respective decor being found on a variety of other matching shapes. For example:

    http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/22/1a/1e/221a1e881fe80ff3be9080979bbf7b8c.jpg

    and here's the smaller vase in the red lined decor identified as Ruckl:

    http://cf.collectorsweekly.com/stories/eG1LSSXQBrN21NPmt3Tdbw.jpg

    There is a web link being posted on CW lately that takes you to another webpage or honeycomb study page. The author suggest careful observation of the two shapes above but neglects to include that there is a very obvious difference in height.

    As with my other spatter glass CW postings these two vases are double cased in clear. The inner casing layer on both is a paper thin layer of glossy clear.

    All constructive comment and questions are welcome.

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    1. charcoal charcoal, 7 years ago
      Thank you Manikin. vetraio50, LeahGoodwin, czechman, PhilDavidAlexanderMorris, mikelv85, manddmoir, JayHow, antiques-in-nj, and DrFluffy for the CW Love!
    2. SEAN68 SEAN68, 7 years ago
      stunning!!love the shape and the color:)
    3. charcoal charcoal, 7 years ago
      Thank you smiata and SEAN68 for the CW Love!
    4. charcoal charcoal, 7 years ago
      Thank you jack1989 for the CW Love!
    5. SEAN68 SEAN68, 7 years ago
      Your very welcome Charlie:)
    6. charcoal charcoal, 7 years ago
      Thank you Budek for the CW Love!
    7. charcoal charcoal, 7 years ago
      Thank you VictorianVicky, rniederman, and ozmarty for the CW Love!
    8. charcoal charcoal, 7 years ago
      Thank you Aimathena for the CW Love!
    9. charcoal charcoal, 7 years ago
      Thank you tom61375 for the CW Love!
    10. charcoal charcoal, 7 years ago
      Thank you miKKoChristmas11 for the CW Love!
    11. Shawnl86 Shawnl86, 7 years ago
      Love the variation of sizes, and color but the similar shape! Kinda like a family :)
    12. charcoal charcoal, 7 years ago
      Thank you Shawn!
    13. charcoal charcoal, 7 years ago
      Thank you bracken3 and antiquerose for the CW Love!
    14. charcoal charcoal, 6 years ago
      Thank you Nordicman32 for the CW Love!
    15. charcoal charcoal, 5 years ago
      Thank you AnneLanders for the CW Love!
    16. charcoal charcoal, 5 years ago
      Thank you glassiegirl for the CW Love!
    17. AnneLanders AnneLanders, 5 years ago
      I just love these. I'm getting a cup of tea after a very long day at work and going to read it all properly. I've just acquired a similar piece from a good friend here :)
    18. charcoal charcoal, 3 years ago
      Thank you buckethead for the CW Love!
    19. Trey Trey, 3 years ago
      Beautiful :)
    20. charcoal charcoal, 8 months ago
      Thanks everyone for the CW Love!
    21. welzebub, 8 months ago
      Your green piece, at a minimum, is Welz production....
    22. charcoal charcoal, 8 months ago
      Here are additional examples of this brick red lined décor labeled Ruckl for those interested:
      https://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/281428-another-welz-dcor?in=activity
    23. charcoal charcoal, 8 months ago
      Nope, that shape was also manufactured in the brick red lined spatter décor labeled Ruckl.
      https://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/168764-antonin-rckl-and-sons--ruckl-bohemian-v?in=activity


    24. welzebub, 8 months ago
      The brick lined pieces in the shape the same as this Welz honeycomb are Welz production. You don't actually think that every piece of glass in a decor similar to that one vase can be attributed to Ruckl based on a single piece of glass do you? Even you can't be that naive about Czeck glass can you?
    25. charcoal charcoal, 8 months ago
      No, the same shape labeled Ruckl was manufactured in other "known Welz" decors.
    26. welzebub, 8 months ago
      Actually the labelled piece, is not the same shape as the Honeycomb piece of Welz in this post. I know differences can be hard to spot for some, but this green example is not the same shape, although this Welz shape is also found in Oxblood examples. .
    27. welzebub, 8 months ago
      Here are a handful of additional examples of this Welz decor as seen on the Welz vase in your images here. Hope this clears up the confusion for you!!

      https://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/281425-a-welz-decor----but-which-one?in=activity
    28. charcoal charcoal, 8 months ago
      None of the smaller vases have been found with a label. That doesn't mean that the shape is Welz.
    29. welzebub, 8 months ago
      But they have been found in a variety of decors which can all be linked to Welz with supportable and robust empirical research....... Research which sure trumps a single vase in a different shape with a label that you have used to try and redefine Welz production into being Rückl.... for some weird reason.....
    30. charcoal charcoal, 8 months ago
      It's not Welz production if it has a Ruckl label. It would appear that your robust and supportable Welz research has matched up a bunch of Ruckl shapes and decors. Great work!
    31. welzebub, 7 months ago
      It is not a valid label if it has been shown to be spurious.... so the attribution based on a spurious label is completely unsupportable.... Oh well Charcoal.... looks like it is back to the old drawing board for you....
    32. charcoal charcoal, 7 months ago
      This book shows it as a valid label.

      https://www.amazon.com/Glasmarken-Lexikon-1600-1945-Signaturen-Handelsmarken-Nordamerika/dp/3925369376
    33. welzebub, 7 months ago
      No, I believe that book shows some valid labels, but as Kevin has pointed out on a couple of different posts, the "Miracle Vase" label is most likely spurious as well as the label on the other vase in the same auction lot.

      But I am sure that as with the other two members of your little group, I will now refer to as the "3 Deleteers" that you will delete this info also, as deleting valid data and observations is just what you guys do... LOL
    34. charcoal charcoal, 7 months ago
      I told you where to find your answer.
    35. welzebub, 7 months ago
      Great example of Welz production. It would seem that your claims based on the label on the “Miracle Vase” are no longer supportable, in light of the label being spuriously placed.
    36. charcoal charcoal, 7 months ago
      You should go buy a few books for research so you don't have to guess.

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