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Toyman
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This was an item found in my house the oldest brick structure in TN 1820 Google SISTERS ROW And see It looks to be a mold for gold coin ?
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Posted 13 years ago
Toyman
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This was an item found in my house the oldest brick structure in TN 1820 Google SISTERS ROW And see It looks to be a mold for gold coin ?
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I wish I knew more about this.I was told they had a coin mint in jonesborough many many years ago and that is were this came from .Not sure though.
I would put something moldable in it, clay ? Plaster of paris? and dsee what came out............... use something you can clean up easily....
I don't understand #3 but it is yours....................do with it what you will..
yes its mine pops. But Im to old to get arrested.Ha I have made one with glue before.
I had a nice guy that came into my place a couple days ago and he was a professor.his hobby was history.We got to talking and I showed him this.He loved it.I know the real story about this coin press.I do know they had a coin mint here in jonesborough way back when.But I dont know the story yet Im still asking and trying to figure out the story. This item is over 150 years old and hand made by a real craftsman.
i would say your on the right track toyman
What is the image that would be portrayed if something "liquid" or "clay like" was to be put inside the mold? Just about every coin is struck from a die, using substantial pressure. Back then, it would have been "steam powered" pressure. What you have here could have been the mold in which the original master dies were made. The artist would make a mold. Then they would make a plaster cast of that mold and then that was used to make the "master die" and after that, the working dies of which there would have been a great many made. The "working dies" would break and/or crack after a certain amount of "strikes" and thus more working dies needed. If the coin did not change from year to year, all that would have done in the way of changes, would have been the date. Many dozen and perhaps hundreds of working dies would be made from the "master die" for a single coin issue. But from what I can see (and I can't see very much) this may be the beginning stages of a new coin or medal and the dies that were made to produce that particular coin or medal.
I always thought coins were struck and not molded??
I says 1853 one dollar and a woman sitting on a sheild holding a flag and 13 stars around other side has eagle with shield in middle.
I think, like I said, is a preliminary mold for a proposed coin series. The reason I think it to be a coin and not a medal is because the $1.00 denomination. I actually have an 1853 $1.00 gold coin that I'm unsure as to whether I've posted it or not already. One final question. What is the size across the mold. Is the round coin portion smaller, like say a nickel, or a quarter or does it resemble the size, say of a, "silver dollar"?
Yes like a quarter size
Hi bahamaboy Iv been reading and trying to find out more info about this press.They say the liberty on shield and arrows on bottom are a rare thing.I still have not found any other press like this yet.Im going to look up and do more info on the artist that made design.Anyway I also was to thank you for all your help and all you say.Thanks john
As far as ALL the silver coins that were minted during this time, and that is as follows: Half Dime, Dime, Quarter, Half Dollar, & Dollar (the dollar coin never had arrows) the coins without the arrows are MUCH more valuable. The reason for the arrows were to distinguish the coins with a higher silver content. The coins with arrows have less silver and are less valuable. And the coins "without" the arrows on either side of the date, have a higher silver content and were only minted up to 1852. Starting in 1853 the silver content was reduced because had they been left as they were, the value of the silver exceeded the face value of the coin. For instance the half dollar before 1853 weighed 13.36 grams and the coin was 90% silver & 10% copper. After that time the silver was reduced making the half dollar have a weight of 12.44 grams. Still consisting of 90% silver & 10% copper. For this reason alone, the vast majority of these "higher silver content" coins were melted both by the mint and by the public. They were sought after in much the same way silver coins in general were sought after when most silver was removed from U.S. coins altogether after 1964. "No arrows" coinage is very scarce to downright rare because of the massive destruction due to the melting of them. Seated coinage which is what this type coinage is called was started in 1837-1840 (the half dime, dime, quarter, and half all started at different times between the 1837-1840 time frame) The seated half dime & the dollar ended in 1873. The seated dime, quarter and half ended in 1891. There was "Bust" coinage before around 1840 and Barber coinage starting in 1892. The silver dollar had Trade dollars follow the seated dollar and then in 1878 the famous Morgan dollar started. There you have it. Middle 19th century to latter 19th century silver U.S. coinage in a nut shell except for a silver three cent piece that was minted from 1851-1873.
By the way, I posted pics of what all three gold $1.00 coins looked like last night. You probably wanted to see what they looked like because this mold says one dollar. I'm kinda starting to believe that this mold you have is a "home made piece" possibly going back to 1853 but more than likely done a considerable time later. Just my thoughts having not being able to actually see what it looks like from the pics you have posted.
Thanks for all info just want to tell you This mold was in my house and this house is from 1820 and owned and built by samual jackson Who knew president jackson and bejamin franklin davy crockett.Anyway I was reading and samual jackson owner of my house was a confederate lutenint in philidelphia were this coin was minted.The confederate wanted to stop circulation of this rare gold coin with arrows and They did another silver coin that same year trying to change to silver the gold coins were worth more than face value.Im still doing reserch look james b longacre cheif engraver for coin mint.He did engravings for all kinds of these important people from our history.This is a very nice hub.Thanks for putting me on the right track.If you learn more please tell me.the puzzel is comming together with this piece of history bahamaboy
Great to hear. let us all know how it turns out. That's really cool you living in that old hose. If you ever do any major remodeling, be "on-site" during any demo. There's no telling what you may find. Let me know if you ever want to part with the piece.
Thanks bahamaboy call me sometime I would love to talk with you on phone.Thanks toyman
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