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    Posted 7 years ago

    scottvez
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    RARE unpublished image of US Grant.

    The unique and rare image has been examined by experts-- a GREAT piece of American History!

    Grant is shown holding his trademark cigar in a typical pose.

    SORRY: While this guy bears a strong resemblance to Grant, this image has not been documented to be him!

    MOST "looks like" images simply are NOT the subject. Today it is possible to assemble a varied collection of look alikes, but without any provenance or documentation, the collection will always be nothing more than a curiosity with little value either monetary or historical.

    I have seen the "looks like" image trap set on online auction sites many times. Popular subjects are Jesse James, Lincoln, Doc Holliday, Thomas Edison, etc...

    Often these "looks like" images are posted with low prices (for an authentic, RARE or unique newly found image).

    Don't be fooled. Without provenance or documentation, facial comparisons are rarely an accepted form of ID.

    As best stated on wikipedia concerning "Doc Holliday" images:

    "There are three photos most often printed (but of unknown provenance) of Holliday, supposedly taken by C.S. Fly in Tombstone (but sometimes said to be taken in Dallas). Holliday lived in a rooming house in front of Fly's photography studio. Many individuals share similar facial features and faces on people who look radically different can look similar when viewed from certain angles. Because of this, most museum staff, knowledgeable researchers, and collectors require provenance or a documented history for an image to support physical similarities that might exist. Experts will rarely offer even a tentative identification of new or unique images of famous people based solely on similarities shared with other known images."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doc_Holliday

    Reproduction of my "RARE" image of "US Grant" is prohibited.

    scott

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    Comments

    1. AmberRose AmberRose, 7 years ago
      You are so funny but it is so true
    2. scottvez scottvez, 7 years ago
      Glad you enjoyed it amber-- I tried to keep it light!

      I hope that it saves someone from buying THE STORY or making an actual purchase of a supposed "rare" image!

      scott
    3. scottvez scottvez, 7 years ago
      Thanks for looking fluffy.

      scott
    4. scottvez scottvez, 7 years ago
      Thanks tlmbaran.

      scott
    5. scottvez scottvez, 7 years ago
      Thanks for looking moonstone!

      scott
    6. scottvez scottvez, 7 years ago
      Thanks for looking geo and walker.

      scott
    7. scottvez scottvez, 7 years ago
      Thanks for looking buss!

      scott
    8. scottvez scottvez, 7 years ago
      Thanks lisa.

      scott
    9. scottvez scottvez, 7 years ago
      Link below shows the DANGER of "looks like" images:

      http://www.ebay.com/itm/unpublished-tintype-of-Jesse-James-Arch-Clements-w-appraisal-documentation-/131110819370?hash=item1e86d0562a&nma=true&si=bEicLt1EaxPIHXuV1EZrY4EHNsY%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557#ht_215wt_1238

      Someone just paid $1000 for this "Jesse James" and "Arch Clement" tintype!

      Don't know the appraiser (or even if it is accurately represented in the auction), but there are obvious mistakes in the appraisal used to support the IDs:

      -Arch Clements DIED IN 1866
      o the tintype post dates this time by over a decade (1880- 90s)
      o the pistol in "James" hand and on the right side of Clement post 1866

      Those are two quick observations on the image-- I am sure that there are other things that would come out with a more detailed analysis.

      Sadly NO detailed analysis was documented on this paperwork.

      I would have expected a family tree to the Grand Nephew to at least show a family connection and then a detailed analysis of the photo itself.

      Seems as though a family story was accepted without investigation.

      Incidently, the "James" in the tintype doesn't bear much of a resemblance to any historically accepted images.

      The photograph itself is an interesting image in its own right without the wishful attribution.

      Double armed men playing tough guys-- it probably would have garnered $200- $300.

      BUT some poor sucker just put a grand into this!

      scott
    10. scottvez scottvez, 7 years ago
      Lots of other "identified" images offered online that don't pass close scrutiny.

      scott
    11. scottvez scottvez, 7 years ago
      Here is another example of an IDd image with no basis in fact:

      http://www.ebay.com/itm/Very-Historical-Abolitionist-John-Brown-CDV-Image-w-John-Kirk-Explorer-Anti-/390789067967?pt=Art_Photo_Images&hash=item5afcd7f4bf#ht_357wt_1001

      I hope this doesn't end like the "Jesse James" image (post #9) with someone wasting their money!

      scott
    12. scottvez scottvez, 7 years ago
      Guy with beard-- must be Nathan Bedford Forrest:

      http://www.ebay.com/itm/Confederate-General-Nathan-Bedford-Forrest-In-Civilian-Clothing-1860s-CDV-/161246992528?pt=Art_Photo_Images&hash=item258b11d890#ht_4912wt_1238

      Just another wish or "looks like"!

      scott
    13. scottvez scottvez, 7 years ago
      Thanks for looking mac.

      Lots of these "looks likes" available on ebay at bargain prices!

      scott
    14. scottvez scottvez, 7 years ago
      Another "looks like" cabinet card. Supposed to be James and Younger brothers with nothing more than vague similarities as proof:

      http://www.ebay.com/itm/Jesse-W-James-with-Bob-and-Cole-Younger-Cabinet-Card-Photo-/171275826396?pt=Art_Photo_Images&hash=item27e0d5b4dc#ht_291wt_1238

      scott
    15. scottvez scottvez, 6 years ago
      ebay used to do a good job policing up these "looks like" images-- not lately. Lots of "looks like" bargains to start a collection with. Sadly, little value in these for those who BUY the bs.

      Old guy must be John Brown:

      http://www.ebay.com/itm/JOHN-BROWN-PHOTOGRAPH-Abolitionist-HARPERS-FERRY-US-Armory-VIRGINIA-SLAVE-REVOLT-/261440165825?pt=Art_Photo_Images&hash=item3cdf0c57c1#ht_4888wt_1238

      scott
    16. scottvez scottvez, 6 years ago
      "Possible Bat Masterson- Whyatt Earp...." Yeah ANYTHING is possible, but much more likely it is just two unknown guys with moustaches-- but then a $1000 price tag would be silly!

      http://www.ebay.com/itm/1870s-Possible-Bat-Masterson-Wyatt-Earp-2-others-Tintype-Photograph-/121312305348?hash=item1c3ec6e0c4#ht_198wt_1238

      scott
    17. solver solver, 6 years ago
      Hi, scott, and a very belated thank you!

      Your "rare unpublished image of US Grant" is closer to reality than the plethora of other "wanna be" images for sale online. You gave great information and examples.

      Here is a caricature of Ulysses S. Grant" published in "Vanity Fair," London, June 1, 2872. The resemblance is noteworthy, especially since he is holding his infamous cigar in his left hand. :-)
      http://digital.library.msstate.edu/cdm/ref/collection/usgrant/id/7
    18. scottvez scottvez, 6 years ago
      Good to hear from you again, solver!

      scott
    19. scottvez scottvez, 6 years ago
      ANOTHER JOKE of a listing:

      http://www.ebay.com/itm/Butch-Cassidy-Tintype-Photo-In-Wesern-Styled-Daguerreotype-Case-/171296847050?pt=Art_Photo_Images&hash=item27e21674ca#ht_101wt_1238

      ".... many people I show this specimen to that it looks an awful lot like butch Cassidy on the right, or other outlaws from the time."

      Good thing the folks that sell this bogus garbage, don't even bother to do SIMPLE Research. One MAJOR problem-- Cassidy was born in APR 1866 and the tax stamps on the back identify this as MAR 1866! Cassidy wasn't even born when the image was made!

      Oh well, I guess it is the "other outlaw from the time"!!

      scott
    20. scottvez scottvez, 6 years ago
      Another joke of a listing.

      "FORMER OWNER STATES THAT THIS IS A PHOTO OF ' JOHN WESLEY
      HARDIN"

      Who could disagree with the analysis (NONE is provided), but a death photo of Hardin is provided for comparison:

      'http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-OLD-WEST-C-1870-COWBOY-TINTYPE-OUTLAW-MURDERER-/331170497529?pt=Art_Photo_Images&hash=item4d1b4cc3f9#ht_153wt_1238

      scott
    21. scottvez scottvez, 6 years ago
      Uknown CDV of Mark Twain, BECAUSE it is NOT TWAIN:

      http://www.ebay.com/itm/Unknown-CDV-Author-SAMUEL-CLEMENS-aka-MARK-TWAIN-Writer-CDV-Nufound-/111326096914?pt=Art_Photo_Images&hash=item19eb8d6e12#ht_329wt_1238

      scott
    22. scottvez scottvez, 6 years ago
      Another BS ID-- this one is supposed to be Jesse James in this CDV:

      http://www.ebay.com/itm/ORIGINAL-CDV-Photo-Gentlemen-Cowboys-1800-s-young-Jesse-James-RARE-/271466579972?pt=Art_Photo_Images&hash=item3f34ab4804#ht_506wt_1238

      "A Fool and his money..."

      scott
    23. scottvez scottvez, 6 years ago
      Thanks for looking photo!

      scott
    24. scottvez scottvez, 6 years ago
      Thanks tom!

      scott
    25. scottvez scottvez, 6 years ago
      Thanks for looking marco.

      scott
    26. scottvez scottvez, 6 years ago
      Outlaw Frank James images:

      http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/122475-a-little-sample-of-the-new-additional-je?in=activity

      FACTS easily dispel the mythical ID:

      Photo #1:

      - Image is on a typical 1890s mount
      - F. James would have been in his 40s- 50s and the subject is much younger
      - Could be an "F. James", just NOT the infamous outlaw

      Photo #3:

      - Photograph dates from the 1880s- 90s (clothing, bench, loose tintype)
      - James would have been in late 30s at the Youngest
      - "Guerilla Confederate Army Suit" is actually CIVILIAN clothing
      - Revolver in his lap (REALLY shows that folks see what they want to!!)

      IF the family tree is accurate, these MAY be in the James family, but the facts don't support the famous outlaw ID.

      scott
    27. scottvez scottvez, 6 years ago
      More James Brothers images and for ONLY $20,000!

      This silly listing doesn't even pass first glance:

      http://www.ebay.com/itm/civil-war-photos-/161393527407?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2593cdca6f#ht_70wt_1238

      scott
    28. scottvez scottvez, 6 years ago
      The Younger gang for only $1500:

      http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-Rare-Undocumented-Tintype-Younger-Gang-Cole-Bob-Jim-Charley-Pitts-Clell-Miller-/111462444319?pt=Art_Photo_Images&hash=item19f3aded1f#ht_5155wt_1238

      What PROOF or DOCUMENTATION?? NONE-- just a group of photos for comparison.

      I hope no one BUYS the attribution.

      scott
    29. PhotoGuy, 6 years ago
      At least he "contacted" eBay so he could deceive people without breaking any rules.
    30. scottvez scottvez, 6 years ago
      Yeah, I saw that part as well photoguy! I didn't know ebay gave listing advice.

      In the past (in my opinion) ebay did a better job of policing these "looks like" images!

      scott
    31. PhotoGuy, 6 years ago
      Maybe users don't want to take the time to report such images or maybe eBay tends to over look such reports. It seems like there are a lot of questionable Western memorabilia on eBay in general besides these looks like photos. There is one seller who usually lists a lot of questionable items but I can't seem to recall his username or if he still even has an account.
    32. scottvez scottvez, 6 years ago
      I believe it is the latter.

      I know of several sellers with regular sales of questionable items. Photos are an area that I regularly see. I remember one seller in particular. He bought a photo and then sold it again with a different backmark and ID on the back (when bought the photo didn't have a backmark)! He's a Power Seller!!

      scott
    33. PhotoGuy, 6 years ago
      Thats surprising. I've heard that eBay is very hard on sellers that sell such items but I guess if the buyer is uninformed only the seller would know of the deception. The seller I am thinking of always had Western documents and usually some kind of "well known person" owned items. I remember several items he was trying to, and sometimes successfully, sell such as memorabilia owned by Bat Masterson, playing cards from various Tombstone, AZ establishments, and Gold Rush era Alaska paper. It was all obviously fake and aged to look real. In fact, several items had handwritten COAs written by random people.
    34. scottvez scottvez, 6 years ago
      ebay used to have a Member Reporting program, where ebay used folks (unpaid volunteers) with recognized expertise to "police" certain selling categories. The member would report fraudulant auctions, which would be ended very quickly.

      This spring the program ended and the junk has come back!

      scott
    35. scottvez scottvez, 6 years ago
      MOST COAs aren't worth the paper they are printed on.

      There is a well known Civil War faker, who adds HIS OWN COA to every item.

      Most of his items have an invented provenance-- sometimes to a famous battlefield or even bogus letters from descendents.

      CAVEAT EMPTOR!

      scott
    36. scottvez scottvez, 6 years ago
      In keeping with CW rules and staying "on topic" I deleted the last few comments that were not related to BOGUS antique image attributions.

      scott
    37. scottvez scottvez, 6 years ago
      See post #26.

      scott
    38. scottvez scottvez, 6 years ago
      Represented as THE Frank James:

      http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/136379-cdv-photo-of-franklin-alexander-james-wi?in=activity

      Attribution is EASILY refuted with just a cursory analysis of the photo:

      - Image is on a typical 1890s mount
      - F. James would have been in his 40s- 50s and the subject is much younger
      - Could be an "F. James", just NOT the infamous outlaw

      This image comes with several others represented as THE James family.

      The letter of provenance does little to prove anything.

      scott
    39. scottvez scottvez, 6 years ago
      Big joke of an image with a big joke of a price:

      https://www.etsy.com/listing/196958873/lincoln-family-tintype?ref=sr_gallery_32&ga_search_query=tintype&ga_show_panel=true&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery

      Fortunately at this price, no one will bite!

      Everyone with a chin beard must be Lincoln!

      scott
    40. scottvez scottvez, 6 years ago
      John Brown's son:

      http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-TinType-of-Abolitionist-John-Browns-Son-Salmon-Brown-/291340911458?pt=Art_Photo_Images&hash=item43d5458362

      scott
    41. scottvez scottvez, 6 years ago
      "John Wesley Hardin" photograph for only $40,000:

      http://www.ebay.com/itm/ANTIQUE-PHOTOGRAPH-OF-JOHN-WESLEY-HARDIN-AT-THE-CIRCUS-HE-KILLED-A-MAN-AT-/391073440154?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5b0dcb219a

      The story just doesn't check out.

      A quick debunk on the ID-- the image is an 1890s format and style, while the killing took place in 1870!

      scott
    42. scottvez scottvez, 5 years ago
      Expensive "looks like" image of "Doc Holliday" and the "Earps":

      http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-6-3-4-by-6-1-4-TINTYPE-OF-DOC-HOLLIDAY-/371326477711?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5674c8658f

      What authentication or PROOF of the ID does the seller offer:

      "Please take into consideration that we do not have any authentication.
      as to these photos being who we claim they are. We are leaving that up to the winning bidder."

      And with a price tag of $250,000-- it makes perfect sense that it is up to the buyer to authenticate!

      scott
    43. scottvez scottvez, 5 years ago
      Available on ebay-- undocumented tintypes of the Younger Gang-- for only $1500:

      http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-Rare-Undocumented-Tintype-Younger-Gang-Cole-Bob-Jim-Charley-Pitts-Clell-Miller-/111742293773?hash=item1a045c170d

      A fool and his money.....

      scott
    44. scottvez scottvez, 5 years ago
      Lincoln/ Mrs. Lincoln/ Booth:

      http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/183412-16th-president-abe-lincoln-wife-mary-to?in=activity

      These are so far off from the famous subjects-- just a group of three images from the Civil War era.

      scott

    45. scottvez scottvez, 5 years ago
      "Yes, I've seen that one. Not Lincoln at all. Doesn't even look like him. Not Mary either. I get these kinds of photos every single day."

      Joelle Steele's comments on the "Lincoln/ Mrs. Lincoln" images presented on this site (See post #44 for a link).

      Here is Steele's website:

      http://www.facecomparisons.com/article-312.html

      scott
    46. scottvez scottvez, 4 years ago
      Looks like image of Billy the Kid and Regulators (well sort of??):

      http://www.ebay.com/itm/291790931592?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2661&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

      A bargain (not really) at just under $300,000!

      "I am selling this photo AS A POSSIBLE MATCH AND OR LOOK ALIKE. I AM SELLING IN AS IS AND IN THE FOUND CONDITION SHOWN. The identification of these men will be left up to you."

      Wow, $300,000 and now to PROVE the attribution!

      Seller's statement: "IF THIS IS THE REAL DEAL IT WILL BE WORTH MUCH MUCH MORE THAN THE LISTED PRICE IF PROVEN."

      Me: IF it is NOT proven, then it is worth about $100! AND since the seller has NO PROOF (as they have admitted), it is about $300,000 over priced.

      scott
    47. scottvez scottvez, 4 years ago
      Wyatt Earp, Bat Masterson and of course Doc Holiday:

      http://www.ebay.com/itm/Men-Wyatt-Earp-and-Co-unverified-TinType-as-pictured-/262501759862?hash=item3d1e52fb76:g:7aAAAOSwXeJXcoiB

      "This was already labeled from a late collector that came from estate sale in RI and have not been verified in any way."

      But only $500 buy it now or $100 auction.

      A fool and his money....

      scott
    48. PostCardCollector PostCardCollector, 4 years ago
      This is a magnificent and so important post! We need to know how fortunate we are to have Scottvez here with us.
    49. scottvez scottvez, 4 years ago
      Thanks much pccollector-- I appreciate your kind words.

      scott
    50. PostCardCollector PostCardCollector, 4 years ago
      Hi Scott---Could you possibly check something out for me
      eBay item number:201611070503
      Seller assumes all responsibility for this listing.
    51. PostCardCollector PostCardCollector, 4 years ago
      Hard to believe--can that be faked?
      eBay item number:201611070503
    52. scottvez scottvez, 4 years ago
      A US Grant tintype on ebay:

      http://www.ebay.com/itm/Man-Grant-Tintype-Portrait-Vintage-/262596125780?hash=item3d23f2e454:g:U2wAAOSwaB5XwLfR

      Doesn't even look like Grant! Seller has several other "identified" but "unverified" images from a collector.

      It is relatively easy to assemble a collection of "looks like" images.

      At least this seller isn't looking for a fortune, but still way overpriced for what they actually are.

      scott
    53. btrue, 4 years ago
      Lots of info! Thank you so much. Every buyer needs to be cautious and educated. I still love the old photos for what they are - a little piece of history!
    54. scottvez scottvez, 4 years ago
      So true, btrue!

      Unfortunately, there are a lot of whim buyers out there who don't know what they are buying and take sellers's hype as fact.

      It is evident on this site with the regular postings of junk with a great story!

      Some sellers on internet auctions see high selling items and then adopt the hype. I see it regularly with these "looks like" photos-- post mortem photos are another area full of myths and misinformation.

      CAVEAT EMPTOR.

      scott
    55. scottvez scottvez, 4 years ago
      The DALTON GANG:

      http://www.ebay.com/itm/272426583162?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2661&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

      Four word description of "original Dalton gang photo", with no analysis or provenance presented.

      But of course the seller is only asking $1,000-- what a bargain!

      CAVEAT EMPTOR

      scott
    56. scottvez scottvez, 3 years ago
      Another questionable attribution:

      http://www.ebay.com/itm/TINTYPE-lot-of-9-CIVIL-WAR-ERA-POSSIBLE-RARE-OUTLAWS-SOLDIERS-LEADERS-FAMILY-/292137384271?hash=item4404beb94f:g:f6EAAOSwhvFZMJ6y

      ONLY $100,000-- better act quickly!

      Interestingly, the seller's dating is off as well. Format (loose tintypes), clothing and backdrops would put most of these in the late 1870s at the EARLIEST.

      scott
    57. scottvez scottvez, 3 years ago
      Another Jesse James related grouping:

      http://www.ebay.com/itm/Family-of-Outlaw-Jesse-James-Brother-Frank-Wife-Mother-2-Ambrotype-Tintype-/272722357662?hash=item3f7f84ed9e:g:ZpsAAOSw~y9ZB9ou

      "Rare opportunity at a Great Price for the right buyer/seller/collector."

      "See pics for verification array"-- a few comparison photos used to make the case for a $7,500 price!

      scott
    58. scottvez scottvez, 3 years ago
      Thanks for looking cultcha!

      scott
    59. scottvez scottvez, 3 years ago
      Another outlaw Frank James/ family images offering-- amazing how many of these were taken:

      http://www.ebay.com/itm/Young-Outlaw-FRANK-JAMES-Wife-Annie-w-Mother-Zerelda-2-Ambrotypes-Tintypes/272773016773

      ONLY $5,000 and "Limited time offer only, Act Now!"

      scott
    60. sklo42 sklo42, 3 years ago
      If there was a competition for having the most interesting and long running CW post ever I'd vote for this one!
    61. scottvez scottvez, 3 years ago
      Thanks peggy-- appreciate it. I hope that it gives pause to some potential buyers!

      scott
    62. scottvez scottvez, 3 years ago
      Older ID that was wrong:

      http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Antique-Sepia-Photo-of-Mark-Twain-Kodak-Velvet-Velox-Paper-5-5-x-8/172811033984

      NOT Twain!

      scott
    63. scottvez scottvez, 3 years ago
      An entire collection of "looks like images":

      http://www.ebay.com/itm/JESSE-JAMES-Original-Photos-over-70-of-them-/192258266292?hash=item2cc37c54b4:g:V5gAAOSwBg9ZemDk

      I'll pick one of the easiest to debunk! Listed as "#3) A 1850 photo of young Jesse James approximately 3 years old has a pillow sitting next to the chair with embroidery letters saying James".

      A quick look at the format of the image and clothing of the boy shows that it that the photo itself dates from the 1890s- 1910 and NOT 1850. But of course the pillow with "James" embroidered is compelling!!

      I don't know why ebay allows this type of listing.

      scott
    64. scottvez scottvez, 3 years ago
      Jesse James image:

      http://www.ebay.com/itm/Outlaws-Bank-Robbers-Criminals-BOB-FORD-JESSE-JAMES-4x6-Sepia-Photo-Reprint/272816240542?hash=item3f851d779e%3Ag%3A8lAAAOSwNFVZiGCD#viTabs_0

      This one is a REPRINT of a looks like image. You know it's bad one reprints are being sold!

      scott
    65. shareurpassion shareurpassion, 3 years ago
      Well said!
    66. scottvez scottvez, 3 years ago
      Thanks passion-- I appreciate you chiming in on the CW tintype!

      scott
    67. scottvez scottvez, 3 years ago
      Thanks for looking johann. Also thanks for posting your educational image!

      scott
    68. scottvez scottvez, 3 years ago
      "it was said to be Jefferson Davis when he was a senator":

      http://www.ebay.com/itm/JEFFERSON-DAVIS-SENATOR-1855-60-Pre-Civil-War-Ambrotype-North-Carolina-Estate/182737322262?hash=item2a8bfe4116%3Ag%3ABnsAAOSwgeRZpHSB

      ONLY $5,000!

      scott
    69. RosaLinda RosaLinda, 3 years ago
      This was awesome and informative. Really appreciate it.
    70. scottvez scottvez, 3 years ago
      Better jump on this one quickly!! For 1 million dollars you can buy a Billy the Kid image:

      https://www.ebay.com/itm/Tintype-Billy-the-Kid-Photo/253274944714?hash=item3af85cf4ca:g:3BYAAOSwWv5aF4ot

      And the seller touts the image with-- " If this is really Billy the kid the clarity of this photo helps us to see what Billy looked liked."

      scott
    71. scottvez scottvez, 3 years ago
      A steal on this image:

      https://www.ebay.com/itm/1878-Tintype-of-Lincoln-County-War-Regulators-Billy-the-Kid-fame/322934824981?hash=item4b306a6015:g:pwMAAOSwj9lZqKbp

      Add a few photos of "outlaws" for comparison and turn this image into a $25k listing!

      scott
    72. scottvez scottvez, 3 years ago
      The myth on post mortem images continues:

      https://www.ebay.com/itm/2-memento-mori-tintype-photos-of-corpses-super-goth-and-collectable/263499441690?hash=item3d59ca661a:g:Yb4AAOSwpYdahis5

      While all are dead now, there is nothing in these tintype images that suggests they were photographed after death!

      These two images are worth a few dollars not hundreds.

      Will someone bite?

      scott
    73. scottvez scottvez, 3 years ago
      https://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-TINTYPE-Possible-OUTLAWS-WILLIAM-QUANTRILL-DAVE-POOLE-CIVIL-WAR-ERA/302675149320?hash=item4678d84208:g:sK4AAOSwBPFarpij

      Funny that "possible" is the only word in the title not in caps. In my opinion the attribution is much more LAUGHABLE than possible!

      Seller was "lucky" enough to find another rare image that he claims shows Jesse/ Frank James:

      https://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-TINTYPE-Possible-OUTLAWS-JESSE-FRANK-JAMES-CIVIL-WAR-ERA-TOUGH-MEN/292488714569?hash=item4419af9949:g:Fs8AAOSwLNVarpka

      scott
    74. scottvez scottvez, 2 years ago
      Seller says: "He looks a bit like Jim Younger to me!"

      Looks like two 19th century unknowns to me in a rough condition image:

      https://www.ebay.com/itm/Tintype-Armed-Cowboys-or-Outlaws-w-Gun-Hatchet-Outlaw-Jim-Younger-Lookalike/352330853463?hash=item52088e2c57:g:6r0AAOSwgKNaBJl9
    75. scottvez scottvez, 1 year ago
      Thanks much craig and brunswick.

      scott
    76. scottvez scottvez, 9 months ago
      Every guy with a chin beard is Lincoln:

      https://www.ebay.com/itm/1800s-Abraham-Lincoln-Portrait-By-F-Gutekunst/303328678200?hash=item469fcc5138:g:xXQAAOSwy6ddq-f2

      https://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Original-CDV-of-President-Abraham-Lincoln-Son-William-Civil-War-1862/114028985540?hash=item1a8ca83cc4:g:~70AAOSwM0VeAOP7

      Lincoln photographs are well documented and these aren't part of the group. Sometimes all it takes is a beard to make folks think it is Abe!

      scott
    77. scottvez scottvez, 9 months ago
      Laughable "post mortem" photograph:

      https://www.ebay.com/itm/POST-MORTEM-DOUBLE-PROP-STAND-AND-BANDAGED-HAND-ANTIQUE-CDV-PHOTOGRAPH/333461364443

      I hate to see the posing stand myth continue. Posing stands were not capable of holding up a child, much less an adult.

      The guy was very much alive when photographed. Open eyes are a key indicator. The terrible condition image has little/ no value. Hope that no potential buyer believes the bs...

      scott
    78. scottvez scottvez, 8 months ago
      Wyatt Earp and the Tombstone:

      https://www.ebay.com/itm/Wyatt-Earp-and-the-Tombstone-tintype/274237195112?hash=item3fd9cf8368:g:TMoAAOSwglJeMW9d

      Documented through slightly similar photos and only $30,000-- better jump on this bargain quickly. Someone is sure to snap it up!

      scott
    79. scottvez scottvez, 13 days ago
      Better hurry on this one! Rare Billy the Kid.

      At $4.9 MILLION it won't last long:

      https://www.ebay.com/itm/254678390355?_trksid=p2057872.m570.l5999&_trkparms=gh1g%3DI254678390355.N36.S2.typeWATCH_ITEM_ENDING_SOON.R4.TR5

      The grainy blow up comparison images are laughable.

      scott
    80. scottvez scottvez, 12 days ago
      Thanks for looking maiden-- lots of bogus stuff with a great story out there!

      scott

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